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Vail Lodging?

post #1 of 16
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Well, I am starting early this year! I am thinking of heading to Vail this winter/spring. We have done the Keystone/Breck/Abasin trip a few times, but never Vail. In fact we have spent the last few springs in Utah. Anyway, I think I'd like to try Vail and those famed back bowls :)

 

My only concern is lodging. We need something reasonable (yea, I know- it's Vail) in the way of a condo. We will have a car, so a bit of a drive is OK. I'd like a pool/hot tub and the ability to cook some of our own meals. Anyone have any suggestions? I mean, I'll be looking at VRBO, but I just thought maybe someone might have a good suggestion in the $100-$200 range for a few days of Vail skiing. Thanks, and bring on the snow!

 

BTW, our prayers go out to all in CO who are dealing with the floods...

post #2 of 16
Thread Starter 

Maybe I need to be more general. I see there are many different "areas" you can stay- like "West Vail", "Lionshead", etc. Does anyone know what area would be more affordable for 2 guys looking for a decent condo? Any suggestions would be great, thanks!

post #3 of 16

Have you picked dates yet?  Jan or April will be MUCH cheaper.

 

The other factor will be if you need to take the shuttle or if you can walk to the lifts.  If you drive, plan on $25/day for parking.  

 

Here's what I'd suggest: plan on arriving April 1st, since the last week of March is high season then it immediately goes to low season the following week.  Shop around to book your lodging last minute on vrbo, vailonsale.com or elsewhere.  You can do this in Jan or April.  In Feb or March you should have a reservation.   If you can't find something reasonable within walking distance to the lifts, stay in East Vail and take the free shuttle.  Don't stay down valley and pay to park if you plan to ski Vail the whole time... it ruins my day every time I drop $25 to get out of Vail.

post #4 of 16

Try Park Meadow Lodge (http://www.parkmeadowslodge.com/).  Very basic but a good value and an easy walk to the Cascade Village lift, so you avoid all of the parking hassle and expense of Vail Village.

post #5 of 16
It's been a few years since I lived there, but I'd check west of Vail. Eagle Vail & Avon may be a little cheaper than locations right at the mountain. 10min drive down the road or shuttle bus which would save you time on parking & $.
post #6 of 16
Turntable in Minturn was the cheapest on the bus line and you can ski back in somedays.

But I don't know why you'd go to Vail if you don't have an Epic Pass.
post #7 of 16
Thread Starter 

Thanks for all the info! We usually go toward the end of March, so April 1 would work.

 

The website for Park Meadows states they only take reservations for a solid month at a time!(?)

 

Why shouldn't we go to Vail without an Epic pass? We live in new England and make 1 or 2 trips out west each year. For us, Utah and CO are the easiest to get to.

 

I was planning on going back to Utah (Snowbasin and Powder Mt.), but we haven't been to Colorado in a couple years. Vail is close to Denver and is huge...

post #8 of 16
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Originally Posted by brumor View Post
 

Thanks for all the info! We usually go toward the end of March, so April 1 would work.

 

The website for Park Meadows states they only take reservations for a solid month at a time!(?)

 

Why shouldn't we go to Vail without an Epic pass? We live in new England and make 1 or 2 trips out west each year. For us, Utah and CO are the easiest to get to.

 

I was planning on going back to Utah (Snowbasin and Powder Mt.), but we haven't been to Colorado in a couple years. Vail is close to Denver and is huge...

 

Call them and ask ... 

post #9 of 16
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Originally Posted by brumor View Post
 

Thanks for all the info! We usually go toward the end of March, so April 1 would work.

 

The website for Park Meadows states they only take reservations for a solid month at a time!(?)

 

Why shouldn't we go to Vail without an Epic pass? We live in new England and make 1 or 2 trips out west each year. For us, Utah and CO are the easiest to get to.

 

I was planning on going back to Utah (Snowbasin and Powder Mt.), but we haven't been to Colorado in a couple years. Vail is close to Denver and is huge...

 

From East to West, Vail goes:

East Vail/Golf Course (on free bus, but not walkable to lifts)

Golden Peak

Vail Village

Lionshead Village

Cascade Village

West Vail (on free bus, but not walkable to lifts)

 

If you choose East or West Vail, try getting something as close as possible to a bus stop which will save you from having to deal with parking during the day to ski.  At night, you can drive to VV or Lionshead for dinner, etc.

 

SH doesn't think anyone should ski Vail without the Epic pass- a good value if you are skiing 7-10+ days in a season.  For shorter trips, there are not a lot of good lift ticket deals, although booking online saves a bit and there are some lodging packages that include lift tickets (which go for about $120/day at the window).

post #10 of 16
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Yea, the thing about Vail (for me) is the price. The question is- is it worth it?

 

Yesterday I got an email from a woman who owns a nice condo in Ogden, UT. We almost rented it 2 years ago, but my son broke his foot and I ended up in Park City. Anyway, her fall rates are $69! If I remember correctly, it's like $89 in peak winter. This is for a nice condo right near Powder Mt.and Snowbasin. Last year we stayed right at the foot of Little Cottonwood for $100 per night and skied Alta and Snowbird.

 

Flights are generally cheaper to CO than SLC, but the drive is nothing in Utah. Lodging (esp. in Vail) is WAY more expensive, as are the lift tickets, food, etc. So, it's a question of trying Vail or going to Powder/SB. This trip is just me and my son, so we don't do it fancy. We like to ski hard, get some drinks and food, crash out and start again first thing in the morning.

 

So, is Vail worth the extra expense? I keep hearing about those bowls, which I love. I can ski just about anything, but I tend to stay away from huge steeps and moguls. The bowls there look amazing and not very difficult. :) 

 

After an hour or so searching, I did find this:

 

http://www.vrbo.com/250423#

 

It's at the Vail Racquet Club and it's $100/night. Probably not the nicest, but certainly within our budget!


Edited by brumor - 9/20/13 at 7:31am
post #11 of 16

I skied Vail for the first time this last season the week before they closed.  Seemed like the back bowls had fresh powder every day and were not difficult - great skiing with up to  8 to 10 inches of fresh.  WOW, were we lucky or what.

 

We used the bus system coming from Beaver Creek, ok but not great.  Lots of walking.  You might want cat tracks or something.

 

 

Is it worth it?  Don't know, haven't skied many places. The front was sloppy and sketchy and not worth it but the top back bowls were great.   Lift tickets are over $100 bucks a day at the counter and they were closing down lifts and runs while we were there.  We even called to find out if everything would be open while trip planning and were told yes, everything would be open till they closed the resort.  As it was, we had more skiing than we could handle.

 

Have a great trip!

post #12 of 16
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Why shouldn't we go to Vail without an Epic pass?

 

VR could sell over 300,000 Epic Passes this year and they can have over 25,000 skiers on a single day.  I just don't think I'd pay full price to ski there, especially on a weekend.

But I really hate crowds.

post #13 of 16
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Originally Posted by brumor View Post
 

Yea, the thing about Vail (for me) is the price. The question is- is it worth it?

 

Yesterday I got an email from a woman who owns a nice condo in Ogden, UT. We almost rented it 2 years ago, but my son broke his foot and I ended up in Park City. Anyway, her fall rates are $69! If I remember correctly, it's like $89 in peak winter. This is for a nice condo right near Powder Mt.and Snowbasin. Last year we stayed right at the foot of Little Cottonwood for $100 per night and skied Alta and Snowbird.

 

Flights are generally cheaper to CO than SLC, but the drive is nothing in Utah. Lodging (esp. in Vail) is WAY more expensive, as are the lift tickets, food, etc. So, it's a question of trying Vail or going to Powder/SB. This trip is just me and my son, so we don't do it fancy. We like to ski hard, get some drinks and food, crash out and start again first thing in the morning.

 

So, is Vail worth the extra expense? I keep hearing about those bowls, which I love. I can ski just about anything, but I tend to stay away from huge steeps and moguls. The bowls there look amazing and not very difficult. :) 

 

After an hour or so searching, I did find this:

 

http://www.vrbo.com/250423#

 

It's at the Vail Racquet Club and it's $100/night. Probably not the nicest, but certainly within our budget!

 

If your not looking for really steep terrain or moguls then Vail will be fine. The bowls certainly are fun and on a powder Vail is a blast because it doesn't get skied out as fast do to it's large size. That being said you have to keep in mind pretty much everyone who is active on this board is hardcore dedicated skiers and Vail doesn't offer a lot in the way of truly expert terrain and is expensive just because it's Vail. As a result a lot of board members aren't all that fond of it.

 
If you've never been it's certainly a cool mountain and got more than enough terrain for 90% of skiers. It's worth the trip just keep in mind that it will never be considered a 'deal' to ski there. If you are staying in Vail i would recommend taking a day to make the drive over to Beaver Creek.  
post #14 of 16

Vail is certainly worth at least one trip for every skier.  Many will love it.  Some won't.

 

A great way to lower the cost is to buy an epic pass, then do all your skiing for the year at Vail's resorts.   I wouldn't do this every year and miss all the other great ski areas, but why not for a year you are planning a trip to Vail anyway.

 

I'd highly recommend coming back to CO in late April, as Easter is late this year so many resorts will be open a week longer.  Vail and Breck will be open until April 20th (along with Copper and Winter Park not on the epic pass).   A-basin is on the epic pass and will be open as long as the snow allows, usually about June 1.  Sometimes, like last year, there is fantastic skiing at A-basin all through May.  April is just about a sure thing for great skiing at A-basin, and the other high elevation resorts are typically great too.

 

Here's a nice article about Colorado skiing in April:

http://www.epicski.com/a/colorado-spring-skiing-dont-fear-the-april

 

And the trip report from the Mother's Day Gathering at A-basin that had fantastic skiing last May:

http://www.epicski.com/t/120336/official-2013-mothers-day-a-basin-trip-report

 

I'm a CO native and have been skiing 30+ years.  I always plan to ski a ton in April and then play May by ear.  Last year I had more days after April 1st than before because the conditions were so much better late in the year.


Edited by tball - 9/22/13 at 12:31pm
post #15 of 16

I would think about doing the Vail trip in January.   Vail has a wide range of exposures, but quite a bit of those bowls face south.  In January it's usually cold enough that the snow stays nice.  In March/April one hour of sun will start melting the sunny exposures.

 

The Epic Gathering was April 2-8 in the outstanding 2011 season.   Vail's skiing was by far the worst of that week, 95% hardpack/spring on the day with no new snow.   During that same week the upper 1/4 of Breck and the majority of Loveland and A-Basin were still packed powder, mainly due to ~1,500 feet higher altitude.

 

So I say, buy the Epic Pass, go to Vail in January (my first trip there I stayed at Racquet Club, should be fine).  Then come back in April, base yourself in Summit County.  If it's good at Vail, you can go there a day or two of the April week also.  Just to be clear, I'm among those who much prefers Vail's terrain quality to most of Summit County's.

post #16 of 16
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So, of course that $100 per night condo is actually more like $175 for anytime I might want to ski. I think I might be once again looking at Power/Snowbasin as an alternative.

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