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Ski length and radius

post #1 of 6
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Hi again,

     In another post I replied to, I brought this up. I was told to find a radius between 15 and 17? How does this work? The smaller the radius, the easier to make shorter, quicker turns?  I am 57, 6' tall, weigh around 220, hopefully drop 10+ lbs by ski season.  And in here, I was told 188s should be good length for me on the MX88s. And similar lengths for other all mountain East skis. And I read many similar posts. Here's what confuses me. I understand back in 1999 and 2000, skis were different, yet I could not make easy turns, wide or short, on my year 2000 Salomon X-Scream Series length 187s. on steep runs. I kept falling, And was told they were too long for me. BTW I also only weighed around 180ish then too. It sucks getting older.  :(  Perhaps my boots were too stiff: Salomon X-Wave 10s?   And I thought because these were "shaped skis", I would have had no problems. BUT, before these, I was skiing for years on old fashioned(?), skinny, straight Olins. AND at length of 208! And I had no problems skiing steeps, Albeit easy, wide black runs. I am by no means disagreeing with any of the ski length suggestions on this forum, I am simply confused. And appreciative too.

post #2 of 6

I still own a pair of X-Scream Series in that same length, and I am smaller than you are, by about 3 inches and 40 pounds.  I have never had any problem turning them.  They are definitely not too long for you.

 

How is your technique?  I suspect that some skidding or technical flaws might be taking place, and your X-Scream are much less forgiving of your piloting errors than your straight Olin skis were.

post #3 of 6
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       Won't argue with you.  Could be "the Indian, not the arrow" scenario. I was thinking of breaking out my Sallies, and take some lessons to get my ski legs back, rather than rent/demo, since I haven't skied in 10 years. Yet I can't find anyone to calibrate my bindings to my new boots. They say they are too old.

post #4 of 6

BTW, even if a ski has a 20m turn radius, like the XScream Series does in that particular length (186cm), it can make a shorter turn if you increase the edge angle, which will cause the ski to flex more.   

 

That ski has fairly high torsional stiffness and is not prone to skidding.  It likes to carve.  What I suspect may be happening is that you are using a skidded turn technique, and when the ski catches an edge, it causes a fall.  A high performance ski with a shorter turn radius will be even more prone to doing this.

 

If that is the case, all modern high performance skis will cause the same problem.  No piece of equipment will ever be a substitute for flawed technique.  But without seeing you actually skiing, it is hard to tell what is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Alohaed View Post

       Won't argue with you.  Could be "the Indian, not the arrow" scenario. I was thinking of breaking out my Sallies, and take some lessons to get my ski legs back, rather than rent/demo, since I haven't skied in 10 years. Yet I can't find anyone to calibrate my bindings to my new boots. They say they are too old.

Yeah. If you haven't skied in ten years, you need some facilitated reentry time before blowing money on skis. A bit of demo money is well spent, and money on lessons, even better. My two cents.
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Originally Posted by qcanoe View Post

Yeah. If you haven't skied in ten years, you need some facilitated reentry time before blowing money on skis. A bit of demo money is well spent, and money on lessons, even better. My two cents.

 

Totally agree.  And when you demo skis, don't go for the advanced/expert skis right off.  Start with skis that have a big sweet spot and will forgive, or at least not punish, less than stellar technique.

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