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White Christmas [beginners, travel from Brazil to USA]

post #1 of 13
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Hi everyone,

I would like some opinion on my holiday. My family and I are going from Brazil to the USA to spend a white Christmas. I have looked a few options, but I really can´t make up my mind. First I thought about going to Vermont, but then, as I checked the prices I considered North Conway in NH and Lake Placid in New York. My main criteria is to choose a place withe the most snow fall probability around Christmas time and also scenic views. Some members of my family have never seen snow, so we are not much of skiers.

Could anyone help me please!

Thanks.

Camila. 

post #2 of 13

Camila,

 

It's not a given that snow will be plentiful at Christmas time in most places in North America, that is fairly early in the snow year.  It would be a good idea to think of destinations other than those on the East Coast to have a more reliable chance of significant snow.  The Rocky Mountains, Sierras, and Cascades will all have more reliable snow at that time of year. 

 

Since you've posted on a forum for dedicated skiers, it would be good to make sure you let us know if you are actually looking to learn how to ski, or are just looking for a snowy destination without skiing being part of the plan.  The answers you get could be quite different depending on this detail.

post #3 of 13

Hello Camila,

Which United States do you wish to see?  Like Brazil the different regions are hugely different with different climate patterns.  

 

For the best possibility of being in snow consider the West as mentioned above.  Big Sky Montana could be an option for you.  Very much the West and well within range of Yellowstone National Park for a side trip.  Very scenic but not a lot of village, or crowds. Sun Valley Idaho would be a nice choice but they do not get as much snow early, so you might not be wading in it.

 

Steamboat Springs, Colorado is another worth considering.  More town, a little less snow assured but it will be close to you.  A really great ski town.  Aspen will normally have snow by then or most any of the Colorado or Utah resorts, but Aspen should have smaller crowds.  Teluride, the same story, but never personally been there.  

 

Being an old Northwestern moss-back, I can not speak to the Northeast.  Wait a bit and somebody will chime in on that part of the country.  

 

You'll have fun regardless of where you select.

post #4 of 13
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Originally Posted by CamilaBR View Post
 

Hi everyone,

I would like some opinion on my holiday. My family and I are going from Brazil to the USA to spend a white Christmas. I have looked a few options, but I really can´t make up my mind. First I thought about going to Vermont, but then, as I checked the prices I considered North Conway in NH and Lake Placid in New York. My main criteria is to choose a place withe the most snow fall probability around Christmas time and also scenic views. Some members of my family have never seen snow, so we are not much of skiers.

Could anyone help me please!

Thanks.

Camila. 

 

Welcome to EpicSki!  How long a trip are you planning?  Would you also spend some time somewhere besides the ski resort area?  For instance, if you went to Lake Placid, would you fly into New York City and spend a few days there before or after?  Are you willing to drive for sightseeing?

post #5 of 13
I would have said that Stowe was the classic Vermont Christmas. But, if you're not skiers, are activities aside from skiing something you want to consider as well? Are the activities you had in mind of the outdoor (dog sledding, etc.) or commercial (variety)?
post #6 of 13

I grew up skiing in New Hampshire, now I live and ski in Vermont. If you're looking for a white Christmas, you're more likely to get it in Vermont than you are in New Hampshire. Still the chances of a white Christmas in Vermont are anywhere from 75-90%, according to the National Weather Service. So there is a chance there won't be snow. However, in the West there are only a couple spots that you're going to have a better chance than Northern Vermont. The Front Range of Colorado would be better than 90%, as would the area around the Yellowstone Plateau.

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I wouldn't trust that map.  It says that it's based on "climate normals" of 1981 - 2010, whatever that is.  I can absolutely guarantee that there are places that I know well that show less than a 75% probability of 1" of snow that have been buried in feet of snow at Christmas every year except 2004, when, even then, there was more than an inch.  That's 100% over 20 years.

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post #10 of 13
There seems to have been a chance in their methodology at some point, as here's a different graphic.

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post #11 of 13
Google searches of NOAA's various regional sites has turned up tons of data.

Especially loved this gem:
Quote:
Weather Records on Christmas Day
According to an NCDC data source of approximately 275 first order NOAA Weather Service locations, the U.S. location with the greatest snow depth accumulation (most snow on the ground) on Christmas day was Kalispell Glacier Airport in Montana with a total of 125 inches on the ground in 1902. The U.S. location with the greatest snow falling on Christmas day was Valdez, Alaska, with a total of 29 inches falling that day in 1929. The U.S. cities with the coldest and warmest temperatures on Christmas day were Gulkana Airport in Alaska (with -64 degrees F in 1917) and San Juan, Puerto Rico (with 90 degrees F in 1989), respectively.

:-)

This article has tons more data links: http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag156.htm
post #12 of 13

Since skiing does not seem to be the main focus of the OP, I would suggest forget going to the USA and instead fly to Calgary, rent a car and drive to Banff (stay at the Banff Springs Hotel), drive to Lake Louise (stay at the Chateau Lake Louise) and then take the Columbia Ice Fields Parkway highway to Jasper. This highway is considered by many to be the most scenic mountain highway in the world.

 

After all, they call Canada "the Great White North" for a reason.

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Since skiing does not seem to be the main focus of the OP, I would suggest forget going to the USA and instead fly to Calgary, rent a car and drive to Banff (stay at the Banff Springs Hotel), drive to Lake Louise (stay at the Chateau Lake Louise) and then take the Columbia Ice Fields Parkway highway to Jasper. This highway is considered by many to be the most scenic mountain highway in the world.

 

After all, they call Canada "the Great White North" for a reason.

+1

 

Though spending a week in Yellowstone at Old Faithful is right up there with the trip you describe.

 

But the OP has not returned, so it may be all for naught.

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