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Tina Maze GS Bindings Off Center

post #1 of 25
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Check out the off center position of Tina Maze's Binding/Plate! I don't recall ever seeing this done before. It's easy to guess the reason why, has anyone here tried this?

post #2 of 25
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Check out the off center position of Tina Maze's Binding/Plate! I don't recall ever seeing this done before. It's easy to guess the reason why, has anyone here tried this?

 

Is there any possibility that this is an optical illusion?

post #3 of 25

You are looking at the white sidewall of the ski creating the illusion of the binding being mounted to the inside.

post #4 of 25
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You are looking at the white sidewall of the ski creating the illusion of the binding being mounted to the inside.

 

I don't think so...

 

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post #5 of 25

The best way to tell is to get a photo of her skis just after the race before they are swapped out for the photo ops.  There should be plenty of vids posted of the skis last season, given she won in all five disciplines.

post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

The sidewall is burried in the snow, there is no light showing under the inside ski, all we can see is top the sheet where the binding is mounted, the plate is right up along side the inside edge, they are clearly mounted off center.

post #7 of 25
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Originally Posted by Speeder View Post
 

The sidewall is burried in the snow, there is no light showing under the inside ski, all we can see is top the sheet where the binding is mounted, the plate is right up along side the inside edge, they are clearly mounted off center.

 

Perhaps not, even though we "see" an offset.  The dynamic range of the camera sensor and the spray could make us think there is an offset when we are really looking at the sidewall, as Whiteroom thinks.  Either way, the camera at the base when the race is just over should not lie to our eyes.  Here is a list of her podiums from last year to check it out (Soelden didn't cut and paste right):

Austrian flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 1
24.11.2012 Aspen USA flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 1
25.11.2012 Aspen USA flag Slalom FIS World cup 3
07.12.2012 St. Moritz Swiss flag Super G Combined disc. 1
07.12.2012 St. Moritz Swiss flag Super comb. FIS World cup 1
08.12.2012 St. Moritz Swiss flag Super G FIS World cup 2
09.12.2012 St. Moritz Swiss flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 1
16.12.2012 Courchevel French flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 1
19.12.2012 Are Sweden flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 3
20.12.2012 Are Sweden flag Slalom FIS World cup 3
28.12.2012 Semmering Austrian flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 2
29.12.2012 Semmering Austrian flag Slalom FIS World cup 3
01.01.2013 München German flag City Event FIS World cup 2
04.01.2013 Zagreb Croatian flag Slalom FIS World cup 2
13.01.2013 St. Anton Austrian flag Super G FIS World cup 1
19.01.2013 Cortina d`Ampezzo Italian flag Smuk FIS World cup 2
20.01.2013 Cortina d`Ampezzo Italian flag Super G FIS World cup 3
26.01.2013 Maribor Slovenian flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 2
27.01.2013 Maribor Slovenian flag Slalom FIS World cup 1
05.02.2013 Schladming Austrian flag Super G FIS World champ. 1
08.02.2013 Schladming Austrian flag Downhill Combined disc. 1
08.02.2013 Schladming Austrian flag Super comb. FIS World champ. 2
14.02.2013 Schladming Austrian flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 2
24.02.2013 Meribel French flag Super comb. FIS World cup 1
24.02.2013 Meribel French flag Downhill Combined disc. 1
01.03.2013 Garmisch-Partenk. French flag Super G FIS World cup 2
02.03.2013 Garmisch-Partenk. French flag Downhill FIS World cup 1
09.03.2013 Ofterschwang French flag Giant slalom FIS World cup 2
10.03.2013 Ofterschwang French flag Slalom FIS World cup 1
16.03.2013 Lenzerheide Swiss flag Slalom Combined disc. 3
17.03.2013 Lenzerheide Swiss flag Giant slalom FIS Svet. prvenstvo 1

Edited by quant2325 - 9/9/13 at 11:37am
post #8 of 25

I'm going with the white sidewall theory. There is simply no way that her race skis are wide enough underfoot to allow that much empty space next to the binding.

Tina Maze

post #9 of 25
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Of course the skis in the podium photo are not her race skis but I take your point. I had the same thought myself, her skis are barely as wide as her boot sole which doesn't leave much room for off centering . I accept the optical illusion explanation as the correct answer unless she's racing on mid fats.

post #10 of 25

Or maybe she needs a more reliable ski shop to mount them? ?  :D

 

Also IIRC she is on Atomic bindings where the X20 race toe can be moved off center

post #11 of 25
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I don't think so...

 

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The camera is using the same gray color for the shaded side of the white ski and the shaded surface of the white snow in which it is embedded.  The shadow on the snow moves towards us and stops abruptly along an edge that could be the edge of a midfat ski.  Thus the convincing illusion that the bindings are mounted offcenter. 

post #12 of 25

Looks to me like speeder is correct. That plate looks mounted directly adjacent to the  big toe top edge of her ski. Forget the little toe side "illusion"


Edited by Atomicman - 9/11/13 at 9:47am
post #13 of 25
I'm 99% sure it's not sidewall, if you look at the graphic near the tip, it extends all the way to the side, showing it's all topsheet not sidewall.

I'm not familiar with any of the star type, maybe she's tiny enough that there's enough space on even narrow skis?
post #14 of 25

Personally I would say bindings are mounted straight and not sideways, and it just looks like this. Here's crop from one of my photos (from Semmering race in December 2012), and I would say both bindings are centered. But of course her setup could change from Semmering to Andora races, as it's half winter between these two races.
 

Edit: Photo from start of the thread is not even from last season, but from 2011/2012 season, as Slovenians had those suits in 2011/12 season and not in last season. So it's whole season between these two photos, so changes in setup are very much possible.

post #15 of 25

This is fun September discussion. :popcorn

 

Now, about the dynamics of duct tape on the toe of her Langes

post #16 of 25
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This is fun September discussion. :popcorn

 

Now, about the dynamics of duct tape on the toe of her Langes

Isn't that a right of passage for any Lange boot?

post #17 of 25
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This is fun September discussion. popcorn.gif

Now, about the dynamics of duct tape on the toe of her Langes
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Maze is fond of reminding people the her ski team is bereft of funding (e.g., what is on her site and in interviews). Perhaps the duct tape is a reminder (lol)?
post #18 of 25

I've toyed with this idea for quite awhile now with wider skis.  The main reason I didn't is that I prefer to be able to swap left and right to get more use out of the skis in general.

post #19 of 25

Is the leverage gained better? Would you not risk increasing the chance of booting out?

post #20 of 25
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Isn't that a right of passage for any Lange boot?

 

Ahhh, but is there a dynamic change in the skiing dependent upon the placement and balance of the duct tape? 

post #21 of 25

On a hunch, I enlarged the photo from primoz and discovered the firm that might be messing around with binding placements and all sorts of other things:

 

 

post #22 of 25
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Is the leverage gained better? Would you not risk increasing the chance of booting out?

 

It's quite likely you would /decrease/ the chance of booting out  if  there is more volume laterally of the boot midline than medially.      Also consider where the buckles sit.

post #23 of 25

She is NOT skiing a 80mm wide GS ski with an off set binding. 

post #24 of 25
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She is NOT skiing a 80mm wide GS ski with an off set binding. 

 

Are you trying to say "If those bindings are offset, then the skis are 80mm+ wide, which would be silly"?

post #25 of 25
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On a hunch, I enlarged the photo from primoz and discovered the firm that might be messing around with binding placements and all sorts of other things:

 

 

This would have been a great 4-1 thread...

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