Originally Posted by steveb
In the quest for boot fit and being able to convey information to the boot fitter - how should the boot feel on the foot?
I've heard in the past that the boot should feel like a firm handshake, this may be true (or not).
In a perfect world (which doesn't exist) would the arch/heel/ankle/lower leg snug and the toes have wiggle room - how much wiggle room? and how snug is snug?
I think your descriptive fits the idea pretty well (a firm hand shake would hold you and not let you go)---I would add that the skiers heel should be retained --- back into the heel pocket pocket of the shell, and the only way to do this is to tighten the ankle buckle (the only one that won't put your foot to sleep on a 4 buckle boot) till it is too tight and would hurt, then back off on that buckle till it is just comfortable. This is the only way to hold your heels back in the boot and not bump your toes, assuming you have the right size boots on in the first place (shell fit).
I once skied with a friend who complained of banging his toes---I asked how tight he had his buckles and he said "they were as tight as he could get them"---I then re buckled his boots for him and found that I could tighten the ankle by 3 more ladder rungs on the ankle buckle. I then asked him what he meant by " they were as tight as he could get them" he said "the buckles were hard to close". This did not address whether he had his heels held in place, just that the buckle had poor leverage.
A firm hand shake is pretty snug---I would say.
As far as wiggle room is concerned--- If a toe cap is used when the liner is molded you should be able to just touch the inside of the liner with a little wiggle room. Keep in mind if you have "shell sized" correctly and your foot and the liner is held in the back of the heel pocket of the boot shell, you should be able to wiggle the liner up and down without feeling the shell on the ends of your toes (there should be some space ahead of the liner between it and the shell).