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post #1 of 12
Thread Starter 

Hi,

 

I think I've narrowed it down to the Salomon Rocker 2 90 or the Elan Apex for my 1-ski quiver.  I can get good deals on both right now.

 

About me:

 

5'11"

160 pounds

Intermediate/Advanced skier (level 7)

I ski mostly groomed runs in Colorado with a little off-piste from time to time.  I only ski a few times per year and this frequency will probably not change.

 

 

I want something fun and lightweight that will handle all conditions reasonably well.  Something that won't overpower me and which isn't too stiff or unforgiving since I'm only 160 pounds.

 

The Salomon Rocker 2 90 comes in 169 and 177 lengths.

The Elan Apex comes in 168 and 177 lengths.

 

Both skis are about the same price.  What do you think will be a better fit (including size)?  Most of the websites/calculators I've looked at suggest something around 170 (give or take) for my weight & ability.  I know that these skis both have a bit of rocker however (and I believe the Salomon Rocker 2 is considered a twin tip) so I'm not sure if that affects the length I should go with.

 

Thanks!

post #2 of 12
Thread Starter 

Bump.  I'm guessing that I could be happy with either of these skis after I get used to them, but I could really use some help with the length selection at least.  With a partial rocker design and turned up tail of the Salomon Rocker 2 90, should I go with the longer length (177cm) for my size/weight/ability?  What about with the Apex (flat tail)?

 

Thanks!


Edited by jkozlow3 - 9/3/13 at 7:11am
post #3 of 12

Get the 177's.  My son is just about your size and he skis the 177 Elan Apex, likes it a lot BTW.  The Rocker2 is more forgiving and easy going while the Apex requires more attention.  If you want the Apex, make sure you get a newer model that actually has the early rise tip because older models didn't.

post #4 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks!  

 

I definitely like the sound of "more forgiving and easy going"!  Considering that my wife and I will probably only ever make it up to the slopes a few times each year, never allowing me to improve substantially (which is fine with me - I'm happy with my current ability as a recreational skier), I'm thinking forgiving & easy going would be a good fit for me!

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Originally Posted by jkozlow3 View Post

5'11"

160 pounds

Intermediate/Advanced skier (level 7)

I ski mostly groomed runs in Colorado with a little off-piste from time to time.  I only ski a few times per year and this frequency will probably not change.

 

I want something fun and lightweight that will handle all conditions reasonably well.  Something that won't overpower me and which isn't too stiff or unforgiving since I'm only 160 pounds.

 

 

I'd say go with the shorter skis since you ski mostly groomed runs.  They will also do better in the bumps that cover the large majority of black runs in Colorado.  The longer skis would do better in powder, crud, and possibly for super high speed cruising depending on the ski. 

 

I haven't been on those two skis, but unless they ski really short or long, I'd be on the 177 for an all-mountain 50/50 ski and I'm 5'11 and 180 lbs.  For me, I'd probably even go with the 170 for mostly groomed runs and bumps depending on the ski.

post #6 of 12

I will stick with my recommendation, especially since the OP seems more interested in the Rocker 2, which is a twin tip and will ski quite a bit shorter than 177.

post #7 of 12
Thread Starter 

Thanks guys.

 

I guess I'm going to need a tie-breaking vote (or two) now!

 

Again, I'm a 5'11, 160lb, intermediate/advanced (level 7) skier who skis a few times a year, mostly groomed/frontside runs.  Blues and single blacks in Colorado.  I think my speeds are fairly average for a halfway decent male skier - not blazing fast or anything.  I don't anticipate getting much better than I am now, as skiing is an occasional recreational activity for me that I enjoy from time to time a few weekends a year.

 

I'm leaning toward the Salomon Rocker 2 90 which is a partial rocker with some tail rise (although I don't think it's considered a pure twin tip - not sure).

 

So...169 or 177 - and why?  I'd love to hear some more thoughts!

 

Thanks again everyone!


Edited by jkozlow3 - 9/3/13 at 11:14am
post #8 of 12
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Originally Posted by jkozlow3 View Post

 

I don't anticipate getting much better than I am now, as skiing is an occasional recreational activity for me that I enjoy from time to time a few weekends a year.

 

 

Get a pass to Monarch!!!  It's only 2.5 hours from the Springs and would be a great mountain for you, and you get a free day at Copper, Winter Park and Steamboat.  You live in Colorado after all!!!

 

http://www.skimonarch.com/index.php/ticketspasses/season-passes

 

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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post

I will stick with my recommendation, especially since the OP seems more interested in the Rocker 2, which is a twin tip and will ski quite a bit shorter than 177.

 

If the OP can confirm the Rocker 2 skis short, then I'd agree with the 177.   Can anyone confirm if the Rocker 2 skis short?

 

Another thought:  how about demoing for a few days.... or a whole season if you insist on skiing so little :-(    You can then be sure to find the right ski in the right length for you.

post #9 of 12
Thread Starter 

Yeah, I'd like to know just how short the Rocker 2 skis if anyone can weigh in.  That would really help with the 169 vs. 177 decision.

 

tball, we had another couple over yesterday for a BBQ on Labor Day and we were just talking about Monarch!  I'm a newlywed and my wife has never skied (we just relocated to Colorado - I've lived here previously but Colorado is new for her).  Our friend's fiancé has never skied either, so we were talking about the best way to get both of them to take a few lessons together so that they could get up to intermediate level status as quickly as possible and then we could all ski together.  Monarch came up as a possible option.  In reality, my wife would be pretty bummed if I took off for the day for 10-12+ hours to go skiing without her, so I need to figure something out.  I'm just getting back into skiing after selling my skis and living out of state for a few years, but I'm sure I'll be fine and get back into the swing after a couple of runs.  There are some great deals at SNIAGRAB right now, and the Rocker 2 90 is VERY well priced, so since it seems like a good fit for my ability, I figured I'd just grab a pair and learn to ski them vs. trying to demo a whole bunch of skis and make a decision after taking a few years off from skiing.  It's just easier that way.  I can learn to ski whatever I buy as long as it's a well-regarded ski and a reasonably good fit for me (not too stiff, correct size, etc).  I've still got my Tecnica boots that I was fitted for (including custom footbeds) 6-7 years ago and they're in excellent shape (probably only skied them 10 times).  Now I just need skis!


Edited by jkozlow3 - 9/3/13 at 11:51am
post #10 of 12

If it helps at all, I skied 161s for several years but when I bought my Nordica Steadfasts I went with 170s and the Steadfast only has an early rise tip.  I'm 5'8" heading toward 5'7" as I get older.  So how much shorter will the Rocker 2 ski?  Most likely about 8-10cm.  You could also send a PM to Philpug at Start Haus and ask his opinion.

post #11 of 12
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by mtcyclist View Post
 

If it helps at all, I skied 161s for several years but when I bought my Nordica Steadfasts I went with 170s and the Steadfast only has an early rise tip.  I'm 5'8" heading toward 5'7" as I get older.  So how much shorter will the Rocker 2 ski?  Most likely about 8-10cm.  You could also send a PM to Philpug at Start Haus and ask his opinion.

 

Thanks.  I PM'd Philpug and he also recommended the 177 for me, stating that it's a very easy ski.  I really appreciate everyone's help!

post #12 of 12

Fantastic, go with the 177 then!   

 

I think the four of you would have a blast at Monarch this winter.  It's a perfect smaller mountain for all levels of skiers that has some of the best snow in the state, and it's by far the closest to the Springs with  a reasonable drive for day trips.   Spending the night in Salida is also super cheap and pretty fun too, as there is a great little downtown with some good restaurants.  And with the Monarch pass you could spend a weekend or two at the big mountains and hit Copper, WP and Steamboat.   Get them all on-board and just do it!  


Edited by tball - 9/4/13 at 8:14am
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