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post #121 of 139
Thread Starter 

I've heard that Volkl One is the ski which able to take crud.... and powder, and that is what I am looking for. Because pristine untouched powder exists mostly in ski movies and once or twice per season if you got at the right place at the right time.

Yes, Atlas definitely a wrong ski... Daron Rahlves skis it and I am not Daron... :( 

post #122 of 139

You might want to take a look at the Icelantic Gypsy 151/125/148  Reverse Camber

I have never skied one but I have a new pair sitting and waiting for winter.

Me 220 lbs 6' 2" Paid  $ 299 for 2013 The blue ones at a blow out sale price

Could not refuse the ski or price about 4 weeks ago

 

http://www.icelanticskis.com/ski_detail.cfm?pid=287

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYwY6DsGIdg

post #123 of 139
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

I've heard that Volkl One is the ski which able to take crud.... and powder, and that is what I am looking for. Because pristine untouched powder exists mostly in ski movies and once or twice per season if you got at the right place at the right time.

 

 "Resort powder skis," able to handle unbroken am powder days and the resort afternoons also.  

 

Chemist in his thread testing current (13/14) skis got the Volkl One as his powder ski. You might look at what he said.  (for example, in post #181, page seven):

 http://www.epicski.com/t/119277/ex-racer-demos-modern-skis-titan-rev85-rtm84-kendo-proph98-finds-himself-delighted-and-confused/180#post_1766556

post #124 of 139

From that thread... adding emphasis:

 

"176 cm 2014 Volkl One (116 mm, 23.5 m)*. I bought this ski.  It felt right as soon as I got on it (in soft snow).  It felt solid, but at the same time highly maneuverable, which gave me a lot of confidence.  And it encourages playfulness -- I found myself looking for terrain features to bounce off of, which was a lot of fun.  It also worked quite well in the large but soft moguls that were just beginning to form out of the recent storm.  For me, their only downside in 3D snow is that they aren't great at handling rough, cut-up snow at high speed.  In fact, none of the skis I tried were good at this.  It would be interesting to find a pair that is -- something that allows me to really charge in those conditions.  It would be fun to try a competition ski.

post #125 of 139
Thread Starter 

One question about the Volkl. I've noticed that few years ago, Volkls started making their skis in China. After multiple quality issues, Mantra, Katana and etc are made in Germany again; however, the new "One", "Two" and possible "Three" are "German Engineered and made in China" again. "Made In China" is the sign which not make me (and possibly any one) terribly exited...

Did anybody had a quality issues, delimitation issue, etc with Volk One (or may be Two)?

post #126 of 139

IF you can travel with 2 pairs of skis then DPS Lotus 138 Pures.

 

If not, then you got dozens of options. For the locations you referenced my choices would be DPS Wailer 112 2.0, Automatic 117, or Super 7.

post #127 of 139
Thread Starter 

Super 7 after 2014 could be a little bit light and soft, Automatic 117 would be more likable considering metal inside it. My travel distance is 200 miles (means -> driving, and I could take as many skies as car could fit in) but I don't think there are really a need to go over 120 (even 120 ) for resort skiing.

 

right now I would consider:

 

Volkl One 186

On3p Billy Goat 186

Praxis GPO 186

Atomic Automatic 117 186

Nordica Patron 185

 

I would try to demo some of them, ask more about the others and see what I would like more or less.

(We had our first snow yesterday at Lake Tahoe area, so hopefully, this season would be much better than one before).


Edited by Oleg S - 9/28/14 at 7:35pm
post #128 of 139

The Volkl One intrigues me.  

I'm a big fan of the Blizz flipcore, my Bodacious are like gigantic tame bulls that take me in the air or in the snow wherever I point them as they magically bring me right on the sweet spot(boot center .75cm forward).
That is until I hiked up to a rarely opened favorite  chute.  The powder field was dreamy and the lower flanks looked even more so, but as I dove into the big pillows the tips dove beneath the crust supporting those pillows.  I released the left and swam/flew another 50 yards down before I could stop.  Good thing my buddy was skilled and nice enough to bring it down to me (she did not need to help me like that).

 

Looking at the One and Two, I saw a tip rocker that offered a nice taper(not too much) and fully expect them to remain above the nasty crust, the trouble is those conditions are maybe 1% of what I ever see so demoing them for that is not an option.

 

As it is now, I'm happy riding the tails, if I find myself there and wait for a good demo chance on some new new school stix.

post #129 of 139
Oleg, look at the Head Cycllic as well.
post #130 of 139
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

One question about the Volkl. I've noticed that few years ago, Volkls started making their skis in China. After multiple quality issues, Mantra, Katana and etc are made in Germany again; however, the new "One", "Two" and possible "Three" are "German Engineered and made in China" again. "Made In China" is the sign which not make me (and possibly any one) terribly exited...

Did anybody had a quality issues, delimitation issue, etc with Volk One (or may be Two)?

 

That China thing keeps coming up over time. The bottom line is that you can make a fine ski in China and you can make a crappy ski in the alps.  Or the other way around. Modern manufacturing lets you pick your price/performance point. Look at the quality standards for consumer electronics coming out of China. Rather than the country where a ski is made, pay attention to its track record. FWIW, my spouse skied Praxis GPOs, Volkl Ones, and Praxis Protests last winter (in that order of use). The Ones seemed just fine.

 

Regarding Lotus 138s.... I have not skied the recent generations, but it is worth noting that in the past they were designed expecting a rather charging style. They still seem to be to my eyes...  Just worth being aware of each ski's personality. 

post #131 of 139
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Oleg, look at the Head Cycllic as well.

it comes in sizes 171, 181, 191, so I would assume for my weight and ability, I should start demo at 181.

found reviews:

http://www.epicski.com/t/127262/demo-day-soul-7-volkl-one-head-cyclic-115-bigstix-122-cham-117


Edited by Oleg S - 9/29/14 at 12:26pm
post #132 of 139
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

it comes in sizes 171, 181, 191, so I would assume for my weight and ability, I should start demo at 181.

found reviews:

http://www.epicski.com/t/127262/demo-day-soul-7-volkl-one-head-cyclic-115-bigstix-122-cham-117

 

Thanks for the heads up on those reviews.  From them, I see why the interest in the Volkl One. 

post #133 of 139
FWIW, I owned the white Volkl Gotamas that were made in China and found they were quite good and durable. My buddy took them off my hands after about 50 days and has put another 75 days on them. Supposedly thin bases lasted 125+ days.
post #134 of 139

^^^^ I owned Goats before and during China production phase. Also Mantras, before, during, after. No discernible diff in quality or durability for either. :dunno

post #135 of 139
Thread Starter 

well, the concern is not that it was made in China, but that It was made in China and after returned back to be made in Germany and now it is again return to China, obviously they (Volkl) had some issues, which I hope had been resolved by now.

post #136 of 139
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

well, the concern is not that it was made in China, but that It was made in China and after returned back to be made in Germany and now it is again return to China, obviously they (Volkl) had some issues, which I hope had been resolved by now.

 

Honestly, I suspect they were "PR" issues. But if someone has real data to the contrary, it'd be interesting to hear.

post #137 of 139
Volkl in China issue was hashed/rehashed many times. For example. http://www.tetongravity.com/forums/showthread.php/149120-Volkl-made-in-China-poor-quality

Sure you can find more discussion but not sure you can find answers you're looking for.
post #138 of 139
Oleg, without dragging anyone else into my choices, I won't buy a ski made in China, but it has nothing to do with the quality of what's produced.
post #139 of 139
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Originally Posted by Oleg S View Post
 

well, the concern is not that it was made in China, but that It was made in China and after returned back to be made in Germany and now it is again return to China, obviously they (Volkl) had some issues, which I hope had been resolved by now.

Consider the various business rationales for changing suppliers. My sources from China have told me that in general Chinese companies are losing their luster because of rising labor costs, recent tendency of the central government to seek more concessions from outsider companies, and increasing realization that the factory set up to make your product will be the template for your competition in a decade - look at the furniture business - and finally, cheaper alternatives elsewhere. QC may or may not play a role; that's up to the specs and profit margin that the contracting company wants to maintain. 

 

That said, I respect Markojp's POV. Any of us may/may not have political beliefs that allow us to purchase stuff from country X, Y, or Z. 

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