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post #91 of 118
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

Going to re-run the same pictures over and over and over again this year? How's the GED doing to try to write and converse in (6th grade) English? So far doesn't look so good. No poseaur here. Not making any claims apart from that I could hardly live on a 475 acre berm all year and try to make believe it was real. Sorry.

 

Still on the Steaux is Chamonix nonsense, or time to grow up? Maybe time to move on to some REAL hills, and not be so defensive of 475 acre berms. Claiming to be the best skier at Steaux is like claiming to be the best skier at Mount Southington - BFD. It REALLY is time to grow up. Really. If you were 15 it would be barely excusable, but now it's just pitiful, really.

 

Like trying so hard to be the star of Gapic. Really? Time for a life dude and not be so terminally insecure. It's really pitiful. Truly, you take the collective IQ of Gapic down with every post.

 

so where did I say was the best skier at stowe? news to me. honestly if your going to claim I said something back it up old codger.

 

the best skier at stowe is Doug Lewis or Dave Merriem or Grahman its not me and I am pretty sure I never said it was me.

post #92 of 118
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post


2 internet poseurs right in row. there are new ones every year. nofun.

I believe that the time-honored schoolyard ritual requires me to now retort "it takes one to know one!"

I note with surpise that Steaux is slowly rubbing off on you. Frenchified words like poseur! My my.
post #93 of 118

Josh, you're not doing yourself (or the image of your ski school) any favors. Even if someone is great at what they do, no one likes an ass. As you get older, the leash gets much much tighter. Funny thing is, I've never heard an ex-WC'er boast about their skiing. Ever. Honestly, I'm amazed your SSD doesn't can you. I know mine sure as hell would if I spouted off in even a vaguely similar tone. Hopefully you'll grow out of it bud. Seriously. And I do wish you well. 

post #94 of 118

stowe is not cham, but we get more snow then they do. FACT and honestly its what you make of it. I wish I could say this was me doing this but honestly you can ski stuff that can easily kill you here. Once you get to you fall you die does it really get any more serious? weather its on a 3k of vert in vermont or 7 k in cham.

 

http://www.famousinternetskiers.com/trip-reports/10-11/the-other-winter-carnival-part-i-unconvential-terrain/2/

 

so you can ski this right? I mean you must be able to since you ski "out west" and can call me Gosh Flatton right?

 

on other best skier in stowe, Greg P is up there for sure....

 

post #95 of 118
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Originally Posted by markojp View Post

Josh, you're not doing yourself (or the image of your ski school) any favors. Even if someone is great at what they do, no one likes an ass. As you get older, the leash gets much much tighter. Funny thing is, I've never heard an ex-WC'er boast about their skiing. Ever. Honestly, I'm amazed your SSD doesn't can you. I know mine sure as hell would if I spouted off in even a vaguely similar tone. Hopefully you'll grow out of it bud. Seriously. And I do wish you well. 

 

The point being I hate the talk of the internet. I hate BS I like facts. i never boasted about my skiing, I was only boasting about my equipment choices. I am not a better skier than anyone if that makes you feel better about me.

 

I am here to spread info based in facts not internet drivel based on what people can get away with posting.

 

The thing is, I am not an ass to anyone. Guest actually love me. I get requested more than most. I am pretty sure the SSD actually really believes in me. This whole act may scare away some people(people I would never want anyways........) but strong personality breed strong relationships with guests.

 

I literally just found this today.......

 

"Ski trails are pretty good. Skied December 17-19 of 2012. Thankfully it snowed all three days so we got some good skiing. The gondola is the best especially since the snow guns were making us all look like Mr. Freezemeisters. Staff are friendly. Joshua Matta is an outstanding ski instructor who made my life go from lemons to lemonade in just one private lesson. We will be back. Maybe will give Cliff House a second chance since we found out the new chef of three days burned my burger into a lump of coal

 

 

that fact that you think that epicski.com matter so much is kinda of funny to me.  what matters is real life performance.  I would rather be loved and maybe apparently hated(at least on this board), then for everyone to think meh that guy was just ok........

 

yet another thread about me....you guys makes this so easy.

post #96 of 118

nice pictures, but I think I much nicer video could be made showcasing east coast skiing.  maybe I will do just that duel.gif

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Edited by sharpedges - 8/28/13 at 9:38pm
post #98 of 118
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Originally Posted by like2ski123 View Post

nice pictures, but I think I much nicer video could be made showcasing east coast skiing.  maybe I will do just that duel.gif

 

do it then! I would love to see it.

 

how about this?

 

post #99 of 118
Never mind. Post deleted.nonono2.gif

 

     zenny


Edited by zentune - 8/28/13 at 9:56pm
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Edited by Josh Matta - 8/29/13 at 4:26am
post #101 of 118
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Originally Posted by zentune View Post

 

 

     Did you say you NEVER boasted about your skiing, Josh? Something that will help...don't extend your transitions with so much pop (or just don't extend as often). With ILE, you don't want any forceful extension...

 

     zenny

 

 

I really do not care what you have to say, your pictures look static and I want to ski nothing like you.

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Edited by zentune - 8/28/13 at 9:57pm
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post #104 of 118
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post

 

do it then! I would love to see it.

 

how about this?

 

 

 

It's cool for sure.  we'll see.  easier said than done I"m sure, but I think I can.  I've been planning on making a video because I was disappointed in what little there was online.  I know it's a lot of work to get the footage.  The best video I saw of skiing in the east was mad river glen ready to fly, and I think there can be a better video because it's one dimensional.  Though I absolutely loved it.  Just the coordination involved though has to be daunting.  But to me there's just so many different things not on video.  Personally I like whiteface, and it just feels nice up there, the trails are fairly steep and I like the ice.  It does frustrate me when people complain about the conditions, but you're outside skiing, can't you enjoy yourself?

 

I've done some crazy runs at whiteface and oviation, like it was a race, (somewhere around under the gondola?) at killington that I would never do again. I'm 33 and don't want to get hurt though, plus I injured my back, but a week later it was magically better (and I mean hurt very bad).   So I've been worried about bumps, but I've been doing stuff on one foot for balance ok.

 

Along with the tree skiing, I'd like to see some bumps and hop turns, steep icy trails, things like that, GS turns, then go into the woods.  I like how you got the footage from far away from a stationary position.  I think the trick to perfecting things is getting most of the stuff away from POV, and varying it up.

 

To go back to the first post, I think that it doesn't hurt to try the different skis.  I always went in the woods, and thought it sucked, two feet of wet snow, branches everywhere on the ground, but it was just where I went, and the skis I had.  I'm pretty sure more and more has already opened up, and man I gotta say gore is really underrated.  And the newer skis make things more comfortable in different snow conditions in my opinion.   I recommend gore in the spring and a mile long of glades and to demo some new skis for it.  Absolutely incredible, the sun was shining through the woods, snow was good, I'm hoping for the same next season.

 

 

 

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post #105 of 118
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post


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8. if your me you can out turn 99 percent of everyone else on groomers despite the 112mm skis anyways.


Hmmmm... How I was raised, the above would be considered boastful... Would'a got me smacked upside the head by my pop and numerous coaches along the way.

Sigh... Stowe gets more snow than Cham.... Ok. Never mind that what they get is on top of glaciers. Josh, you really should be more secure. Many of us have been around enough to have known folks like you. They either grow out of it, or they end up the sad old fart at the end of the bar bragging about how rocking they were when they where young that no one gives a damn about.

And your cliffs... bud, I'm probably old enough to be your father. I've got nothing to prove to you.
Seriously, and listen again, I agree with your basic idea that a pair of fat skis is fun and worth having anywhere there's powder. Yes, that includes places out east. Where I live isn't germane. Where I've suggested you go ski for an ego check isn't either until you go running your mouth. Remember Walter Payton? Barry Sanders? If not, look'em up. No celebrations, they just acted like they'd been there before and that they'd be there again. No words, just deeds.
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post #106 of 118
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post

I found the OP in tree in a state park in Pennsylvania.....they looked very much like this.

 

 

 

now reasons to own wide skis on the east coast. AKA I am killing your gawd damned thread........

 

 

number 1.

 

 

number 2.

 

 

number 3.

 

 

number  4

 

 

number 5.

 

 

number 6.

 

 

number 7

 

 

 

number 8. if your me you can out turn 99 percent of everyone else on groomers despite the 112mm skis anyways.

 

 

 

 

but you will never be able to ski woods as fast as I can if you stick to your half skis. there is no trash talking this.

 

 

 

 

I ski at stowe, Ill give you lift ticket. stop trashing talking on the internet and prove to me that your skinny skis are actually better.  or do you like just being a blow hard on the net with nothing to back it up with with?

So, I can do all of that on FIS GS boards... been doing that all my life, not the best skis for it but def doable if you have the skills. 
I think i just killed your "gawd damned" point...

Pro tip of the day:
unless you are actually someone (and not just another avg. skier) don't go post around the net like you are god on earth... it makes you look like an idiot.

 

post #107 of 118

Rrriiiight.  We only need to be nice and mannerly to people from whom we can obviously derive a direct benefit; the other folks don't matterrolleyes.gifnonono2.gif

 

While I am sure there are plenty of bears who have skied woods faster than that, the videos posted above do illustrate the point perfectly, the extra base provides more float and that allows for better sideways skiing without catching an edge or needing to tip the ski enough to have the base dial up too much turn.  Many here could ski that terrain (and have skied similar terrain)  with skinny skis, but it would take more skill, skill that a lot of folks just don't have.   So, even if they only venture into that terrain on the rare storm day, because they don't want to ruin their bases, they would still rather live with low g turns on the ice and hard packed snow they usually ski than prove that they can't ski when they enter the ungroomed woods after a storm.

post #108 of 118
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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post

So, I can do all of that on FIS GS boards... been doing that all my life, not the best skis for it but def doable if you have the skills. 
I think i just killed your "gawd damned" point...

Pro tip of the day:
unless you are actually someone (and not just another avg. skier) don't go post around the net like you are god on earth... it makes you look like an idiot.

 

 

 

right you can ski woods that fast on FIS GS boards, and I am called boostful.

 

where do you live?

post #109 of 118
I just want to make sure I posted in this very important thread.
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Thread Starter 

wow.

post #111 of 118
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Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post

 

do it then! I would love to see it.

 

how about this?

 

Very nice tune--who?what?  Skiing ain't bad either.

 Sure JM is boasting on his skiing.  If we got rid of all the people who boast there wouldn't be a forum. 

post #112 of 118

I think that if you in the places Josh skis (working hard to find plenty of fresh snow) then you know the benefit of a wide ski. If you are asking 'why' then you don't and will not see a benefit for the terrain and snow conditions you experience. Simple as that.

 

There is plenty of powder to be skied on the east coast, it's out there if you work for it.

post #113 of 118
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Originally Posted by snofun3 View Post

Going to re-run the same pictures over and over and over again this year? How's the GED doing to try to write and converse in (6th grade) English? So far doesn't look so good. No poseaur here. Not making any claims apart from that I could hardly live on a 475 acre berm all year and try to make believe it was real. Sorry.

 

Still on the Steaux is Chamonix nonsense, or time to grow up? Maybe time to move on to some REAL hills, and not be so defensive of 475 acre berms. Claiming to be the best skier at Steaux is like claiming to be the best skier at Mount Southington - BFD. It REALLY is time to grow up. Really. If you were 15 it would be barely excusable, but now it's just pitiful, really.

 

Like trying so hard to be the star of Gapic. Really? Time for a life dude and not be so terminally insecure. It's really pitiful. Truly, you take the collective IQ of Gapic down with every post.

 

Hey, how bout you chill out about your generalizations. Don't like Josh? Fine. But don't insult an entire mountain and the people who ski it. Stowe is a great mountain with great terrain. 475 acres isn't what real Stowe skiers ski, they ski the 1000+ acres of terrain between the trails and outside the boundaries. And being the best skier at Stowe is a BFD? Yes, it is. Josh isn't that guy, but there are a ton of really good skiers at Stowe. And you just insulted every single one of them with your jackass generalizations.

 

And you make these insulting comments... from Florida. How's the skiing there? At least some of us are serious enough about skiing to live where there's snow and hills. How's that for a generalization, jackwagon?

post #114 of 118

Many excellent skiers from Stowe. Slagging them isn't a place I'd go. 

post #115 of 118
Thread Starter 

Stowe is a great Mountain. Smuggs is also a real gem with great Glade skiing. Wish I could get to them more often. Hopefully when the kids are a little older.Some of the best skiers I have ever seen was on a powder day at Smuggs 4 years ago. These guys just were flying down everything and launching off of anything they could find without missing a beat. There is a run right beneath the Madonna chair that was just a blast to watch people ripping down and jumping over rocks at 30MPH. NE definitely has some great skiers. no doubt.

post #116 of 118

Just passing through hoping to see some news concerning the up-coming season.  See that things have not changed around here much over the summer with the standard east vs west, skinny vs fat, and me vs you in JMs case.  To each his/her own but, I like my 127s, tip rocker only, all day on any day regardless of snow depth and cannot wait to click into them for another season.  How about some real skiing news around here in lieu of re-creating old arguments? 

post #117 of 118

OK, I'll bite. Here's my boast: My skiing sucks, regardless of conditions or width of skis.

 

I steer by doing a face plant and using my nose as a rudder.

 

In the rare times I'm actually upright, my feet are so far apart it looks like I'm straddling a beach ball.

 

I slarve with my butt because if I'm not on my face, I'm sitting down.

 

I can photograph cliffs, but only if I can see them from the lodge.

 

My favorite skis are those plastic ones from Wal-Mart (or, in the Great White North, Canadian Tire). I don't know how wide they are, but whatever the number is, it's more than I can count on my fingers.

 

I can out-stupid 99% of everybody.

 

So there! Any questions?

post #118 of 118
And another thread runs amok. Thanks for the attempt to diffuse and lighten the tone with some humor, JHCooley, but I think that a few others have driven the thread too far into the mud with personal attacks to expect a recovery. It started off well, but it's time to move on.

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