Originally Posted by triplenet
- Trying to improve off piste but having problems
Can you elaborate on what type of "off piste" skiing you are trying to improve but having problems? Powder, trees, bumps, steeps, crud? What areas have you been skiing and had problems? That makes a big difference on the length and type of ski.
Originally Posted by Chaos
And sure, you can grab a 173 and dink around on the groomers all day. But what happens when you take a couple lessons and get a lot better and want to dive into something more challenging(powder, packed powder, trees, crud?) A 173cm for a 175lb guy simply ain't gonna cut it in those conditions. Not unless you like to lean back on your tails. And anyone who tells you different has zero clue what they're talking about.
I tend to agree with Phil that a 173 sounds better given he's not a solid expert yet. Guess I have zero clue, but here are my thoughts:
I haven't skied the Bonafied, but I've spent a lot of time on the similar Mantra in 170, 177 and 184 lengths. I think the Mantra is probably similar in sizing to the Bonafied (somebody correct me if I'm wrong). If you get that class of ski too long they take a ton of effort, and will likely overwhelm an intermediate. At 180lbs I didn't mind the 170 Mantra, and it was a blast cruising and in bumps. I prefered the 177 overall, but if I had to pick the 170 vs the 184, I'd take the 170 on 90% of days. I'm a stronger skier than the OP, so I think he would enjoy the 173 much more than the 180 unless he's skiing high speed in wide open bowls.
I would question the 98 width, though. I'd suggest he consider a ~88 width ski in a 170ish length while learning, then later add a ~105mm ski in a 180ish length to have a 2 ski quiver with the best of both worlds.