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Volkl Gotama

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Thread Starter 

I am new here, and this is my first post.  I am 54 years old.  Expert level skier.  I live and ski down East, but I go out west yearly. I ski about 15 days per season.   I am 5'9 and 185 pounds.  I currently ski on a pair of 2009-2010 Dynastar Legend Mythic Riders in 178 cm. length. They are 88 mm underfoot with a 21m radius.  I have AT bindings and boots (Garmont Endorphin).   I find them (the Mythic Riders) to be totally adequate for all conditions from hardpack to a foot of powder.  They are not so great in week old crud, windblown snow, or heavy wet ungroomed snow.  

 

I am looking for something that will be better at handling difficult conditions.  I have never tried rockered skis before, but I am tempted by a pair of Volkl Gotama.  What would I gain and what would I lose over the Mythic Riders.  

 

What length should I go for?  For years, I have always bought the second longest length in any given model.  For the Gotamas, that would mean the 186.

post #2 of 14

The Gotama is a fine ski IF your style is compatible.

 

I'm not sure how the Mythic riders compare, but they strike me as a lively charger.

 

One thing the big GOTs are not is lively.  If you like a reboundy pop that powers your turns and straightline stability, the Gotama will be disappointing at best.

 

OTOH if you are more of a smooth glider who prefers a gradual transitions from edge to edge in a slarvy surfy feel, the GOTs are money.

post #3 of 14

Read the reviews on this Ski

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/2011-big-mountain-ski-reviews-by-dawgcatching

 

That said I Know people who love it 

 

But...

 

88 vs 110 is gonna feel different

 

Have you considered other choices ???

post #4 of 14
Thread Starter 

Just to be clear.  I am not trying to replace the Mythic Riders as my everyday ski.  I love those skis.  They are the best all around pair of boards that I have ever been on.  They are still good for a couple of seasons and I intend to keep them.  I am only contemplating adding a new toy to my quiver.  However, I would like that toy to be versatile enough to be able to ski the whole mountain.  That is why I do not want something superwide like a K2 Hellbent.

post #5 of 14

There has not been a lot of love for the later model goats on this site

 

you may wanna look at this thread

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101637/2012-blizzard-cochise

 

especially this post for the pros / cons of the goat

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101637/2012-blizzard-cochise#post_1315822

post #6 of 14
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Originally Posted by Pacobillie View Post

Just to be clear.  I am not trying to replace the Mythic Riders as my everyday ski.  I love those skis.  They are the best all around pair of boards that I have ever been on.  They are still good for a couple of seasons and I intend to keep them.  I am only contemplating adding a new toy to my quiver.  However, I would like that toy to be versatile enough to be able to ski the whole mountain.  That is why I do not want something superwide like a K2 Hellbent.

A quiver of two divergent style skis is better than a quiver of two similar skis.

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Originally Posted by near nyquist View Post

Read the reviews on this Ski

 

http://www.epicski.com/a/2011-big-mountain-ski-reviews-by-dawgcatching

 

That said I Know people who love it 

 

But...

 

88 vs 110 is gonna feel different

 

Have you considered other choices ???

Other skis I am looking at are the Blizzard Cochise, the Line Influence 105, the Dynastar Cham 107 High Mountain and the Rossignol S7.

 

As mentioned in another post, I am not looking for a dedicated deep powder ski.  I am not looking to replace the Mythic Riders either.  I want something that can float in deep powder and wind slab.  Something turny enough to ski in tight trees.  I do not need it to be able to land big jumps, or do super G turns on open faces.  But it must  not feel like a tanker on the groomed.

post #8 of 14
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Originally Posted by near nyquist View Post

There has not been a lot of love for the later model goats on this site

 

you may wanna look at this thread

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101637/2012-blizzard-cochise

 

especially this post for the pros / cons of the goat

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/101637/2012-blizzard-cochise#post_1315822

 

I have the 2009/2010 Got's the last full camber one, which year that was. Love them at Okemo, I only bring them out on the deeper days and wet spring conditions. I can go from my first year Kendo's tot he Got's with no change in the way the ski, ski's. I tune them both at 1 and 3 tip to tail. I'm still old school, I have demo'ed rocker tipped skis but most of them I find to vag. The RTM was a good feel but it still didn't have the locked to the snow feel I'm used to feeling with my big toe. I would think the OP would be better off to wait and demo a fat ski on a powder day before he spends his money.
post #9 of 14
Where do you ski? East or west? Sounds like you want some pop in your skis along with the stability. Some early rise in the tip and tail along with camber underfoot will give you what you are looking for. The first ski that comes to mind would be the Nordica El Capo (along with the Vagabond) for 14, be careful, it does run long, the 185 is really a 189, you might be best to consider the 177 which is really a 181 especially since you mentioned that you are looking to take it into the trees. The other great option in this one oh something segment is the new Stockli Stormrider 107, a great ski from the premium segment. If you were to delve into the 113 range, the Start Haus has some Helldorados for 389 which are a great deal and will do almost everything you are looking for.
post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

Where do you ski? East or west? 

As mentioned in my opening post, "I live and ski down East, but I go out west yearly."   I do not need a ski like this (wide, rockered ski) for any condition that I am likely to encounter down east.  However, for my annual trip out west, I would like to have something that is more "deep snow" or "difficult snow" oriented than the Mythic Riders.  

post #11 of 14
Agree with you to look into Cochise.

You might have to demo and or do some research to see what might fit your style, but here are some ideas:

Rossi Sickles 186 (really 183s)
Ninthward RDS 183 (levelninesports has them for $229)
Salomon Rocker 2 108
Nordica Patrons or Helldorados
4FRNT Turbo
post #12 of 14

Both my wife and I have two seasons on the Cochise. I have skiied the MR and would describe it as a very traditional ski while the Cochise is quite different. First the Cochise is easier to turn in tight spots with just a pivot from the knees down. The MR is a lot more work with the tradional drive forward, unweight the tails and hop or hope. Second the Cochise is both easier and more effective in less than ideal snow conditions due to it's subtle early rise and 2 1/2 sheets of metal. The 108 waist doesn't hurt either. Very stable but still easy to turn by just rolling onto an edge from a neutral position. The entire edge hooks up from tip to tail and around you go.  Third the Cochise doesn't 'pop' from turn to turn as it has no camber. Again you just 'roll and rip'. The edge grip is such that I no longer use my skinny 76 mm skis although I don't have to ski Eastern ice. I don't expect you to believe me but the Cochise could end up replacing the MR as your daily driver even for most days in the East. It's technology is really that good.

post #13 of 14
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Originally Posted by Castle Dave View Post

Both my wife and I have two seasons on the Cochise. I have skiied the MR and would describe it as a very traditional ski while the Cochise is quite different. First the Cochise is easier to turn in tight spots with just a pivot from the knees down. The MR is a lot more work with the tradional drive forward, unweight the tails and hop or hope. Second the Cochise is both easier and more effective in less than ideal snow conditions due to it's subtle early rise and 2 1/2 sheets of metal. The 108 waist doesn't hurt either. Very stable but still easy to turn by just rolling onto an edge from a neutral position. The entire edge hooks up from tip to tail and around you go.  Third the Cochise doesn't 'pop' from turn to turn as it has no camber. Again you just 'roll and rip'. The edge grip is such that I no longer use my skinny 76 mm skis although I don't have to ski Eastern ice. I don't expect you to believe me but the Cochise could end up replacing the MR as your daily driver even for most days in the East. It's technology is really that good.

hey castle dave, any time in the moment belafonte? interested to see how would you compare...
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Haven't tried the Belfonte but have heard good things about it.

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