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Mt Hood Tunnel Collapse

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What is going on up there? Is this a natural tunnel that they were goofing around in, or is it a sort of an Aiguille du Midi type thing?

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Oh Wow.  Imagine being one of the 5 that got out.  What they must have seen and heard. 

 

Thoughts and prayers for the snowboarder who's still in there. 

 

This still bodes the question Epic asked, was this man made or natural?  From the sounds of it, its man made th_dunno-1[1].gif

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While not having personal knowledge of this particular ice cave, I would bet a lot on the fact that it is a naturally occurring phenomenon.  There are several natural ice caves in the glaciers of the PNW, and I've never heard of a human made one.

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Natural occurring ice cave.
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Don't hot box ice caves

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A young girl died in one in Washington last year.  In that case there were signs in abundance saying that it could be a dangerous place.  (The parents were suing the government about that one.)  

 

Most snowfields or glaciers have water running out of them that naturally forms a cave, sometimes not very large. They can be like a horizontal craves.  They can be spectacular and they can be dangerous.

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Most snowfields or glaciers have water running out of them that naturally forms a cave, sometimes not very large. They can be like a horizontal craves.  They can be spectacular and they can be dangerous.

 

Isn't there a whole ecosystem down there, in the subnivean zone?

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This is a hazard that takes out unaware people periodically in the PNW. A guy died at Mount Rainier early this summer after punching through snow into a under-the-snow stream and drowned. The NPS warns in their Mount Rainier brochure to be aware of the sound of running water under snow and to move away from the sound. And yes, a young girl died in the Big Four Ice Caves last year despite Forest Service signs warning about not going into them.

 

Going into snow/ice caves is a bad idea anytime, and even worse in late summer. It's been warm in the Cascades lately. There's a reason why you see large blocks of ice on the floor of these things--they are not stable.  And unfortunately, it will probably happen again in the future on some glacier in these parts.

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Very sad.

 

Stay out of ice caves - as others have said, very unstable and collapses that kill happen just almost every year in the PNW.

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Did I read somewhere that Ryan Backowski is from Loveland?  

I thought I read that somewhere this morning but can't find it now. 

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He was from Pine Junction.  It's a small mountain community just outside the Denver metro area up 285, the road to Monarch and Crested Butte.  He was working as a snowboarding coach at a summer camp on Mt Hood and was previously an instructor at Echo Mtn and Breck.

 

I really feel for his parents.   This quote that has been in the local news really hits home:

 

"Every time on the news in the winter, when there was an avalanche, I didn't rest until I got him on the phone," Backowski said. "He would say, 'I'm OK, Dad, it wasn't me.' I think he quit telling me, 'Don't worry about me.' He knew his mother and I were never going to stop worrying."

 

http://www.denverpost.com/weathernews/ci_23794954/pine-junction-snowboarder-killed-accident-mount-hood-oregon

 

There is no doubt we are raising our kids as skiers, but that gives us pause.  Rest in peace Collin.

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Peace and prayers to his family. 

 

When googling for news I stumbled on his facebook page. 

https://www.facebook.com/collin.backowski.7

Such joy and energy changed in a split second. 

 

He was a snowboard instructor for High Cascade Snowboard Camp.  See the comment on their facebook page. 

 

 

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Yesterday an off-duty staff member was killed from a snow cave collapse in an out of bounds area at Mt. Hood. We are deeply saddened by this loss but wish to immediately inform the public that all campers are safe and none were on the mountain when this incident occurred. We would like to reiterate that the area of this incident is out of bounds far from HCSC’s private facilities and is an area that is off-limits to campers.

We are still learning more details about the incident with cooperation from the Hood River County Sheriff’s Office and will be providing crisis-counseling onsite for staff and campers.

 

Video from the camp. 

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 A guy died at Mount Rainier early this summer after punching through snow into a under-the-snow stream and drowned. The NPS warns in their Mount Rainier brochure to be aware of the sound of running water under snow and to move away from the sound.

A bit off topic but that wasn't an ice cave. That was just a plain ol' snow covered stream, something you need to be really cognisant about when spring hiking and the snow is melting. I almost lost a dog that way once.

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I heard some people died on Crystal Mtn. over the weekend as well?  Rollover car accident with a couple employees.

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I heard some people died on Crystal Mtn. over the weekend as well?  Rollover car accident with a couple employees.

There is a story here. 

http://snowbrains.com/2-injured-1-killed-in-crystal-mountain-ski-resort-accident/

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