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post #1 of 12
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Okay, so I've found a pair of 2013 Lange Xt100 Low volume boots online. The 2014 pair seem to be identical, but they are £100 more. As the season is over, I am unable to try a pair on in a local ski store. 

 

Would it really be that bad if I bought them having not tried them on? I am going skiing for 5 days later this month so that will give me time to try them out. I will probably buy a custom boot liner, so it is really that significant that I haven't tried them on? 

post #2 of 12

OK----So good luck

 

But----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

 

 

Your idea has been tried by a multitude number of folks with terrible results.

 

The definition of insanity is----repeating the same thing over and over and expecting to get a different result.

 

Boot fitting requires a boot fitter----unless----you are qualified.

 

There is a list of fitters at the top of Ask the boot guy's under" Who's who in ask the boot guy's"----find one near you 

 

and get the full treatment. The biggest mistake most folks make is to buy too large a boot, which will never fit and can't be made to fit.

 

Good luck,

 

mike

post #3 of 12

the 2014 boot is identical, my guess is that the shop will put them back up to full RRP in the next week or 3 as the new stock starts to come in, they are probably just trying to get some cash in over the quieter months (unless of course they have taken leave of their senses and dropped the brand) 

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Would it really be that bad if I bought them having not tried them on? I am going skiing for 5 days later this month so that will give me time to try them out. I will probably buy a custom boot liner, so it is really that significant that I haven't tried them on? 

 

 

if the shell shape is correct, and the size is good the this might work, however if as Mike says it is not, then no custom liner will help you, throwing another £200 at a boot which is not right in the first place won't get a better result

 

volume, shape and size are critical to this working properly for you all of those three things are good then happy days, does the shop not have a boot fitter who can fit you up and make a recommendation? if they do try not to be fixated by the price, difficult i know but i am guessing you plan on keeping these for a couple of seasons at least so spread over that amount of time is it really worth it

post #4 of 12
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The thing is, I live in the UK and the only place that has any stock remaining is a large chain store, where the boot fitters are not really trained. I know how to check if a boot is right size. I am going to go into this store on Thursday and try on a couple of boots including the Lange rx 100 and then order the xt online if it is a good fit.
post #5 of 12

so, you will go to store x (as it is a UK chain store it is one of 2 ) get them to give you a number of boots to try, say thank you very much and leave to order on line where you can save a few £  at very least offer to pay for their time, or tell them your intentions when you walk in

 

you say they are the only place with any stock, currently we have around 320 pairs of boots in stock, 280+ of them new seasons stock (but not the model you are looking for, it arrives next week)

 

 

 

when it goes wrong, it WILL cost you considerably more to put it right than it would have if you had bought the boot with a fit guarantee from a fitter

 

sorry to sound harsh but it is not quite as simple as knowing how to check if a boot is the right size, how about other than just length we look at width, volume, toe box shape, mid foot shape, heel pocket shape, forward lean, ramp angle, the base board and how it interfaces with the footbed, the cuff adjustment for your leg shape etc etc.  all in all if you are happy with the level of service which amounts to "here, try these sir" then buying on line is an option, but when it comes to a  piece of kit like a pair of boots then it 99 times out of 100 needs a bit more than that

post #6 of 12
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so, you will go to store x (as it is a UK chain store it is one of 2 ) get them to give you a number of boots to try, say thank you very much and leave to order on line where you can save a few £  at very least offer to pay for their time, or tell them your intentions when you walk in

 

you say they are the only place with any stock, currently we have around 320 pairs of boots in stock, 280+ of them new seasons stock (but not the model you are looking for, it arrives next week)

 

 

 

when it goes wrong, it WILL cost you considerably more to put it right than it would have if you had bought the boot with a fit guarantee from a fitter

 

sorry to sound harsh but it is not quite as simple as knowing how to check if a boot is the right size, how about other than just length we look at width, volume, toe box shape, mid foot shape, heel pocket shape, forward lean, ramp angle, the base board and how it interfaces with the footbed, the cuff adjustment for your leg shape etc etc.  all in all if you are happy with the level of service which amounts to "here, try these sir" then buying on line is an option, but when it comes to a  piece of kit like a pair of boots then it 99 times out of 100 needs a bit more than that

I did look at your store after reading forums on snowheads, but unfortunately it is too far away for me to get too. I never mentioned that I was looking to necessarily save money at the expense of a proper service, but I was unable to find the xt 100 at any U.K stores and I have narrow feet so I thought that it would be a suitable choice. The only reason I was looking to buy online now is because I wanted the boots for later this month and it seems that most individual stores are not getting next years stock until September or later. 

post #7 of 12
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Originally Posted by tpmac22 View Post

I did look at your store after reading forums on snowheads, but unfortunately it is too far away for me to get too. I never mentioned that I was looking to necessarily save money at the expense of a proper service, but I was unable to find the xt 100 at any U.K stores and I have narrow feet so I thought that it would be a suitable choice. The only reason I was looking to buy online now is because I wanted the boots for later this month and it seems that most individual stores are not getting next years stock until September or later. 

How far is too far---we have had folks come to our shop from Japan (not bragging) just to buy boots(we are on the east coast of the US)---I think the UK is only a couple of hundred miles wide by 600 miles long couldn't be too far.  Wait a week and go check CEM out, by then he should have the XTs in.  You will be glad you did.

 

How narrow are your feet anyway?

 

 

mike

post #8 of 12
Thread Starter 

If I could drive it wouldn't be too far to get there, but as I would have to travel by train it would take 6 hours from where I am and cost almost £100. However, sticking to the subject of this thread, I will NOT be buying boots online and will visit a reputable boot fitter. As aforementioned, having read several positive reviews of the store, I would definitely go there if I had a car, even though it is a 2 hour drive away, but for now it is not viable. 

And I need a narrow boot between 97-98 last. 

 

Thank you for your input. 

 

Tristan. 

post #9 of 12

Tristan,

 

where the hell are you that is only 2 hours drive from us but 6 hours by train??? i can only guess east or west about as far as you can go (the train service in this country works well up and down but not so good across the way

 

let me know where you are if i can suggest someone locally to you who i know then i will let you know

 

biggest problem is not many places carry the XT 100 it is fairly soft for that type of boot so most places do the 120 or 130 ,  if the 100 flex is about right for you unless you need the hike mode i would go for the RX100 LV (always assuming it is fitted for you) as it is more stable as the spine has not been cut for the hike mode, other options could be the tracker or redster from atomic, the salomon X max (although this has a bit more volume and often needs to be down sized) most brands offer something similar (look at the soft flexing race boots (100-120) they are normally narrower 

post #10 of 12
Thread Starter 

Sorry, I meant to put 6 hours return. I am based in Uckfield, about 25 minutes drive away from Brighton. I know of two places about a 45 minute drive away and neither of them carried the xt 100 last season. I wanted the xt because I ski quite a lot of park and am getting into off piste so I thought that it would be more suitable than the rx. I thought that a racing boot would of been too stiff for park so that's mainly why I was looking into backcountry boots because they are just a little bit softer, but still good on piste. 

post #11 of 12

the 100 flex race boots would be the same a a 100 flex back country boot (or very close) in terms of flex  the only thought i would have about the XT would be that the hike mechanism might not like the repetitive loading that you will get playing in the park landing back on the cuff when you come off of rails and boxes, perhaps others might add comment, it is (on all these types of boot) the biggest weak point

 

go have a chat with Ed or Anja at Snowlab at knockhatch, about the best guys you will find on the south side of the M25, not sure about the XT but he may be able to get it for you if they have sized you up for it with an RX or similar

post #12 of 12
Thread Starter 

Okay, the cuff could be a problem then, thank you for pointing that out. I will be going to Knockhatch soon to fit my bindings so I'll see what stock they have then. However, I didn't see Lange advertised on their website as a brand that they carry, but I'm sure that there will be something suitable when next seasons stock comes in. 

 

Thank you. 

 

Tristan. 

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