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AT Binding Selection

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Thread Starter 
I'm looking for suggestions on selection of AT bindings. My skis are Line 90 and ski boots tecnica Cochise Pro light. I'm thinking about moving to blizzard kabookie skis.

Thanks John
post #2 of 11
Since you have the Cochise Pro Light boots, it would make sense to get tech bindings (like Dynafits) for touring, especially if the skis will be used mostly for touring. Tech bindings like Dynafits tour the best, ski very well, and are very light. Remember that you generally spend something like 90% of your touring time going up. There are things to keep in mind about tech bindings. They require a certain mindfulness getting in and out, but with a little practice, that isn't a huge factor. If you're unfamiliar with tech bindings go spend some time on wildsnow.com.

That said, Fritschi bindings are currently on sale at Black Diamond:
http://blackdiamondequipment.com/en/web-specials

Getting in and out of Fritschis is much like regular alpine bindings, and changing into and out of touring mode is pretty intuitive. Downsides are that the touring stride is a little less natural than tech bindings and they are heavier, both of which can be significant on longer tours. They also have a rather high stack height and are slightly flexy to ski. Marker makes some similar touring bindings called the ft10 and ft12.

Marker also makes some touring-capable bindings like the Baron and the Duke. I wouldn't recommend them for a setup that will be used mostly for touring because they're heavy and the touring stride is the least natural of all. But some people like them because they ski quite well and the DIN release goes higher than other touring bindings (though Dynafit is coming out soon with a tech binding that is reputed to have a higher release and smoother skiing than the current models).

I <3 Dynafits.
post #3 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks Bob... Great info and I'll being looking at the fritschi bindings.
post #4 of 11

Hmmm.... if you weren't going tech (Dynafit of compatible) I would look at the Marker Tour F10/12 rather than the Fritschi.  I've now gone tech for my AT skis (G3 Onxy and Dynafit) but dabbled for over five years with Fritschi Freeride + and Marker Dukes.  The only advantage the Fritschis had over the Dukes were: lighter; switch to tour mode without getting out of binding (no big deal as 99% of people have to take skis off to remove skins anyway); and heel lift bar better.

 

Now the Marker Tour F10/12 doesn't have any weight penalty over the Fritschi and the Markers ski far better than the Fritschi.  So if I was looking for a binding to cover all bases i.e. AT and inbounds, the Markers Tour F12 would be my choice.  That said, go tech/Dynafit as you will end up there anyway.

post #5 of 11

I'm using Barons, but I think I'd go with Tour F12s for a ski I wanted mixed resort/touring on; I know there were some issues before, but I think they've been mostly worked out. 

 

The obvious answer is Tech if you're mostly touring and aiming at longer tours w/ more vert and not hucking 30-ft cliffs. But Tech is pricey! I'd go with Plum Guide, personally. 

post #6 of 11

Here's a relevant question: are these skis for touring only or will you be using them at the resort as well?

post #7 of 11
Thread Starter 
Thanks everyone!!

I'll be using the setup for both touring and resort skiing.
post #8 of 11

I have an AT setup that i use for both resort and backcountry.  I am using the lighter Fritschi bindings and they seem fine to me. (on a pair of G3 Saintes) However, my older fritschis (on another pair of skis) have developed a little slop in the heel that is due to plastic wearing and cannot, so I have been told, be fixed.  I still ski fine in them though.  I have Technica Cocise boots and I have read that there are sometimes issues with the way they fit the Dynafit bindings.  The issue is along the lines of this: they seem to be completely clicked in but for some reason they are not and you come out without warning.  This may have been fixed in the past year or so.

post #9 of 11

How much do you weigh, how hard do you ski, do you huck major cliffs? 

 

Most people don't ski a Tech binding in the resort, but it's possible. Wouldn't be my choice even though I'm light (but usually aggressive). 

 

I've been happy with my Barons for climbs up to 3,300 feet vertical on tours. Though I am slower up than my friends w/ lighter setups and Tech-- I do it mainly for enjoying nature and the payoff of being able to charge down silly good powder and lines that would be skied out in the resort. I really don't feel any marked difference between Barons and Griffons (non-touring version) in  the resort. I hit small backcountry features, but don't hit 30-ft cliffs.

 

So I'd be a voice for something in the Marker Tour/Baron/Duke line depending on weight, type of skiing-- and perhaps more important if you fall in the middle range of these things, price. 

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by crank View Post

I have Technica Cocise boots and I have read that there are sometimes issues with the way they fit the Dynafit bindings.  The issue is along the lines of this: they seem to be completely clicked in but for some reason they are not and you come out without warning.  This may have been fixed in the past year or so.

 

This was fixed after the first year, before the Pro lights came out. Not an issue anymore, my Pro 130's tour and ski fine with tech toes.

post #11 of 11

Ditto, I have the Cochise and ski happily in Dynafit and G3 Onyx bindings with the tech blocks fitted.

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