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Length, Girth and New England Skiing

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My head hurts from thinking yet nothing happens and I am still jonesing for some new skis so could use some help/suggestions............

 

5'11'' 175ish 52 years of age I guess OK skier not an expert so I guess advanced intermediate???  Pretty much stay on the groomed no bumps but to try from time to time when they are softer.   Ski Blues, Single and Double Blacks that have been groomed and sometimes greens when skiing with Ms Dolt.  I mainly ski at Pats Peak and Crotched cuz they are close to home and at least a week at some place like Tremblant or Killington or Utah or BC........When skiing I tend to ski as fast as the skis will go without becoming too unstable but mostly at a moderate to fast speed mainly because of the short runs and too many people on the trails.

 

My very well used and now camberless Volkl Carver XT's 184's have been on the wall for about 5 years now, I guess I got my moneys worth out of them, bought new pre season and I really loved those skis but I found on the last season I was riding them that I was getting more chattering I guess due to me pushing them too hard or just wanting to go faster or the skis were just getting old.  So I took to the web a number of years ago and bought without demoing a new pair of Volkl 724s with bindings on the cheap for about $250.  I do like them except that they are too much work to ski short turns and not all that stable in the crud/chop 72mm waist. Like a dolt I did not bother to look at the turn radius which is about 25m and I got them in 184's too. 

 

So now I am looking for another ski and I did some demoing on the new fangled rocker skis so far.....

 

K2 Photon 167cm

Volkl RTM 84 176cm

Volkl RTM 80 176cm

 

The Photons were fun but it felt like I was on snow blades and the edge hold was OK but not like I was used to and it was easy to turn and quick in short turns, the skis just felt short.

 

The RTM 84's were HEAVY but wicked fast and stable, scary fast at first but I quickly got used to them but did not like the weight of them I could live with them but I could see after a few days on them getting my ticket clipped by ski patrol on a regular basis so they may not be the best choice for the places I mostly ski.  Also easy to turn short.  I would like to demo the V-Works but I can't find them to demo and due too cost, I need to seal coat my driveway this year, and having a long time attachment to my balls and not wanting them permanently removed by the Mrs for dropping that kind of dough on new skis without even demoing them well many will get the picture.....

 

The RTM 80 were 'meh' a little lighter then the 84's but not as fun as the RTM 84's.  I would get the RTM 84 over the 80's if I had to choose between the two.

 

So I am looking for a stable light fun ski to use at the local local hill so I have length and girth issues with skis too.

 

One thing I do keep in mind is what on shop owner told me many moons ago when I bought my XT's you can ski any ski in the shop it is that some skis will not be as fun as others.

 

So now with the bargains on skis happening I have been surfing the web for some good deals on skis and there are many good deals out there on late model skis and I want to start the season on new skis or I will end up demoing and using my old skis and waiting till next summer to buy new skis because I don't want to pay top dollar.

 

Some I am considering so far....

 

Atomic Smoke Ti 178cm 

Volkl RTM 77 177 cm

Head Rev 80 177 cm

Volkl 75is 173 cm - I worry that it is to short and I will over power it quickly.

 

Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions on skis, length and girth?  Is a 173-175 cm length too short for me???

 

Not sure about reverse rocker skis, I would have to demo anything reverse rocker first, I hear good and bad about reverse rocker so I don't think I would buy without demo,

 

Disclaimer - If I go with your suggestion I will not personally hold you responsible if I don't like the skis but I may curse you and your family for generations to come and if I like the skis I will pat myself on the back for my brilliance in making a great decision and you will get no credit what so ever.

 

Anyway looking forward to what you have to say!


Edited by SkiDolt - 7/27/13 at 6:37am
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I say go ahead and get the RTM84s, and maybe take a few lessons to learn how to have the skis  do the work for you; you shouldn't feel their weight when you're standing on them.  The idea is to tip and pressure the skis so that they move you where you want to go, not you moving them. 

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SkiDolt,

I ski the similar places as you.  My daily driver is the Elan Amphibio.  It's a hybrid with regular camber on the inside edge and early rise on the outside edge. They are recommended a little shorter than you would think (I'm on a 160 and I think you would end up on a 176) but they are stable and riiiipppp!  I've skied them in everything except trees; groomers, bumps, crud and NE powder.  One of the L3's at CM has them too and he's around 6' tall.

 

Theses skis a great in the bumps and carve very nicely.  Never had an issue with them holding an edge.  I even use them for demos and clinics when I have to do "stupid human tricks".

 

If you go to the Elan site, and use the selector, along with the Amphibios, it also brings up the Elan SL Waveflex Fusion in 170 for you.  Skis.com is having a pretty good sale on skis right now.

 

Also, if there are any Nordica's that interest you, you can find the thread here on epic on great deals through Start Haus on those http://www.epicski.com/t/120945/the-nordica-blem-sale-is-live/90#post_1602647

 

Welcome aboard and if you ever want any info on Crotched, let me know.  I'm epic's ambassador for there and I also coach kids there on the weekend. 

 

Ken

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I say go ahead and get the RTM84s, and maybe take a few lessons to learn how to have the skis  do the work for you; you shouldn't feel their weight when you're standing on them.  The idea is to tip and pressure the skis so that they move you where you want to go, not you moving them. 


By feeling heavy it is on the lift and what not on snow they were great they felt substantial and not heavy and I had no problem driving them.  Perhaps the reason they felt heavy to me is because it is a jump in performance and technology from my current skis and is a normal feeling for the level of skis across all brands.

 

If that is the case then the skis I am considering may only last a few seasons and may not be really worth it.

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I ski the similar places as you.  My daily driver is the Elan Amphibio. ......

 

I was reading about them and found them interesting but would have to demo first because of the hybrid tech.  The first shaped skis I tried were Elan's when shaped skis first came out and I was hooked they were a fun ski. 

 

Next time I go to Crotched I will let you know, thanks!

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