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Insulated vs. Shell - not the question you're imagining

post #1 of 14
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Hey everyone,

 

I was just reading a thread looking for some advice on pants (actually it was a pair of pants, and a pair of bibs), however it got me thinking as I too am going to be looking for new pants this fall...

 

What does everyone wear under their shell-pants?

 

I'm an Alberta/BC skier, frequently skiing down to -25c or so, and have always had insulated pants.  Typically I wear a base layer (Icebreaker), and my insulated ski-pants (last season was a pair of Helly Hansen pants - which will be too big for me this season).

 

I understand the basics of layering, the theory behind it etc, but I'm simply curious - is there a "mid-layer" option out there that I just haven't seen?  Maybe I've actually been looking at mid-layer pants not knowing it?  

 

Anybody willing to throw up a few links to what they would consider a mid-layer pant?

post #2 of 14

I usually use a lightweight merino baselayer, if it's too cold and the shell is a thin 3 layer shell I use sometimes a fleece pants. These will work

 

http://www.rei.com/product/799098/the-north-face-tka-100-microvelour-pants-mens

http://www.rei.com/product/801629/rei-polartec-100-teton-fleece-pants-mens-32-inseam

 

I also have an under armour fleece pants that works great under the shell.

post #3 of 14

I have a selection of base layers: thin wicking polyester for mild days; light fleece for cooler weather; and midweight fleece for bone-chilling days. I usually wear uninsulated shell pants, but I have one pair of pants with a very thin layer of insulation for extreme weather. Mix 'n' match, according to the forecast.

post #4 of 14

First layer is almost always tights (CW-X). Then if I need a second layer, it varies depending on how cold it is. Sometimes thin polypro, or maybe light fleece if it's pretty chilly. If it is really cold, I use insulated pants, and the same layering system.

 

If it's too cold for insulated pants and two layers under that, it's probably too cold for me to ski. I find that if I keep my lower half really warm, that's more helpful than layering up a lot on top.

post #5 of 14

   Usually thin or medium wt. poly-pro and a pair of zip off spyder training shorts to keep my butt warm on the chairlift. All of this under Arctery'x Theta SV pants. When it gets really cold I may add an expedition weight poly pro long john. But that's the beauty of shells...SOOOO many different layering options!

 

    zenny

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post #7 of 14
I have Patagonia shell pants. Underneath I always have my Opedix compression base layer. On those crazy -25 cold days and sometimes early season when I still think 5 is crazy cold, I just put a pair of baggy sweat pants or my pj bottoms on. I think there were 3 or 4 days I had my pjs underneath and all of hem were early season. The only time I felt I needed them was on the lift and it was always early season.

This has made me "consider" getting some type of neoprene wrap for my butt. I'm not there yet, but considering it.
post #8 of 14
I use Patagonia "silks" always so my leg skin doesn't bind with whatever's inside whatever outer pant I'm going to wear. I add Patagonia mid or heavyweight layers depending upon the conditions and, again, the type of pant. My work uniform unfortunately is insulated. The venting helps a bit. The ski pants I purchase mostly are shells.
post #9 of 14
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Originally Posted by L&AirC View Post

This has made me "consider" getting some type of neoprene wrap for my butt. I'm not there yet, but considering it.

 

I really like mine, except that it greatly inhibits wicking and you can get pretty swampy back there. This year I'm gonna put a honeycomb of 1/2" holes in it.

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post #11 of 14

I wear a light weight poly-pro bottoms and top, then a very light weight croy wool (similar to merino) bottoms and top, then a GoreTex shell.

 

On extra cold days i wear a heavier weight poly-pro base layer.

 

IMO GoreTex offers the best wind proof performance among the breathable membranes.

post #12 of 14
If it's butt cold, I'll bust out a pair of old Patagonia puffball pants to wear as a mid layer over a pair of mid-weight long johns Toasty! smile.gif
post #13 of 14

I use a thin poly knit mesh pant (http://www.underarmour.com/shop/us/en/mens-flex-pant/pid1204186), so mid-weight base and poly knit pants when it's cold under a gore shell. Since I'm in WA this combo doesn't come out too often, usually it's just mid-weight base with poly knit mesh shorts to keep my rear end/hamstrings warm on the chair. For spring I drop the base layer and go shorts under shells.

post #14 of 14

A European  "Costco' called Aldi sell merino tops and pant sets for $39. On the weekend in extremely windy  -5C conditions I was so hot I was skiing without a helmet or hat.

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