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Snowboard edge tuning question

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Hey everyone, sorry this is kinda long - I hope my thoughts arent too scattered. I am looking at turning over a new leaf and doing a better job at keeping my equipment tuned up - edges especially.. I split my time between 2 boards each have about 30 days on them since new. I emailed both manufacturers and these are the factory bevels (I dont have a guage yet, and I realize what actually comes out of the factory might not be whats shown below). I love how both of these boards ride, and I dont want to screw that up by messing with the edge angles much. The boards are neversummer proto - factory bevels are 0 base 0 side (90 deg corner) nidecker megalight - factory bevels are 0 base 1 side (89 deg corner) I have my level 1 snowboard, and I am hoping to go for my 2 this season. I consider myself an advanced freerider (not expert) with carving/edging being a strength. I am not a beginner and I dont want a slopy/generic tune from a shop that mostly tunes rental equipment. I have talked to a race shop in Boulder that will tune my boards up. They claim to only do skis, but since its summer and the nidecker is sort of a carving board they said they would tune my equipment to the factory angles, and I trust they would do a good job... here is the catch its 50 bucks to tune each board. So it will cost 100 dollars for 1 good tune that includes flattening the base. I got to thinking that I could invest in my own tools and gain knowledge and save money in the long run by doing my own tunes. Another benefit to having my own tools would be that i could knock off burrs and do a quick sharpen maybe every couple weeks or every month instead of every season... I dont need a perfect race tune, but I do enjoy the feeling of sharp edges. I am looking at sun valley equipment. One of my coworkers highly recommends their stuff, and the internet reviews ive seen seem to be positive. I have 2 concerns with getting tools and tuning myself... The first concern - Since the base is the reference for the guides, it seems very important that it be flat. I have read that you shouldnt try to flatten a snowboard base by hand especially someone trying to get into tuning like myself. So when tuning snowboard edges how flat is flat enough? Would the base area the guide runs on be flat enough currently to do a decent tune? (my thoughts are probably not). I was thinking that I could pay the race shop to do an initial tune which includes flattening the base, then I could do the sharpening and upkeep myself through the season. Does this sound logical? My second concern has to do with changing the factory angles.. If I do have a 0 base bevel the shop can match that with a base grind right? If I were to start doing tunes myself I have only seen guides down to .5 degree for the base which I dont have a problem with. I LOVE the edge hold on my nidecker. It grips on everything. I would like to maintain that 89 degree corner - and I would like to go to an 89 degree corner on my neversummer too. If I started tuning with a .5 degree base bevel would it be a huge difference tuning my side edge to 2 degree? That way I would have an 88.5 degree corner. Thanks for any thoughts info or suggestions. I was planning on practicing on some goodwill skiis before turning the files loose on my good equipment.
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Sounds like you want to learn how to tune.  This is with skis, but it's all the same.

 

Here is some snowboard hints.

 

 

Here is some more.

 

 

Good luck!

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Thanks for the videos! They are very informative.

 

I have decided to skip the race shop and start tuning my own stuff... 

 

Does anyone have any experience with the base flattening tools below? (on a snowboard preferably)

 

http://skivisions.us/12466.html

 

I guess if you distill down my original post my question is how flat is flat enough for a snowboard base? Is a inexpensive stone grind "good enough" to flatten the base out? Or is there a real benefit to to investing in tools from the above company to flatten the base by hand?

 

I am going to purchase a true bar to evaluate my bases as a starting point, and I am looking at sun valley guides.

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Originally Posted by Caleb Crosby View PostI guess if you distill down my original post my question is how flat is flat enough for a snowboard base? Is a inexpensive stone grind "good enough" to flatten the base out? Or is there a real benefit to to investing in tools from the above company to flatten the base by hand?

 

I am going to purchase a true bar to evaluate my bases as a starting point, and I am looking at sun valley guides.

They don't need to be perfect flat.  The base material is very thin.  I'd say if you were getting into competition, then just buy a high end sintered base board for carving.  Just be sure to have a good edge tune on it.  For most folks a 1 degree base bevel and a 2 degree side.  If you are riding park rails and boxes, then you want a 2 degree base bevel.  If you know how to carve, then move to a 3 degree side.  Good luck to you.  BTW you can just use a sharp steel scraper as you see me use in the video.  I would not use that "tool".  Because a board is wide, I would not use that for a board.  I have some custom stainless scrapers for boards.  Thicker and wide enough to go across the entire base as well.  You might consider something like that.

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