Edited by chaconie - 7/10/13 at 10:52pm
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Edited by chaconie - 7/10/13 at 10:52pm
So you want a ski for SuperG courses, but you also want to go into crud and powder... ? And you're going to be a patroller?
Sounds like you need to keep your SuperG skis for the race course, and expand your quiver with an Australia-appropriate all mountain ski.
Ah, ok. Did you have a chance to demoe a bunch of skis in Taos? I'd go with what you enjoyed. And keep your current SuperG skis. But I hear Australia isn't suited for SuperG skiing anyway.
As a patroller you may also get a discount on gear or be eligible for free high-performance demos.
As Metaphor said, if you demoed any skis and liked them, just buy those.
If not, go shopping in the 88 department. There are a bunch of great skis there that will fit your needs nicely. An 88 is narrow enough to carve nicely and you won't be missing your GS skis much, but it's also a great all mountain ski for pow, crud, slush. I have no idea what ski Australian patrol uses, but I'd bet an 88 will fit the bill nicely. It's just a great all-around ski.
Here's an older thread with reviews of a bunch of 88's your should be able to get a deal on. The Kendo and E88 are fantastic choices for you, but there are many you couldn't go wrong with:
Um, you are in Tahoe. StartHaus is nearby. Enough said, they'll get you on the right ski, and just as importantly the right length. Just read their posts here and you'll know you are in the right hands.
The biggest problem with what you're looking for is that there are sooooo many great skis out there that will do what you're asking.
To be a work horse on ski patro,l think mid fat.
To have fun in slush, crud and heave snow, think mid fat
To enjoy powder, think mid fat and nimble
To give you that SuperG rush, think narrow and strong.
First skis that come to mind are Nordica - Hells Belles, Nemesis, Blizzard Samba, Volkl Aura, Salomon Rockette (for next season Lumen), K2 - Superbright, Remedy.
This is a short list of things that pop to mind. There are a whole lot more.
All of these skis have different personalities and tenacity, but all of them could easily fit your needs.
Touching on your comment about the SuperBurn. If you like superG, then the SuperBurn isn't the ski for you.
** Take Phil up on his offer to stop by Start Haus. He'll steer you in the right direction.
Didn't think Tahoe was in Oz.
Or is it? ..........And is Philpug the Wizard behind the curtain?
Acutally......She said she is in Tahoe for a couple of weeks and wouldn't mind buying here.
Oops! Well then I certainly hope she'll visit Start Haus. It's a lot of fun hearing from folks just starting their ski season.
This thread reminds me, I'm looking for a new car and maybe someone can help me out. Needs to be super fast, 0 to 60mph in 4 seconds or less, but can also hold a bunch of gear for off-roading (4WD is a must) and as many as 8 people. Any recommendations?
Start with a Hennessey SRT8 and see how many russian models you can fit in back?
OK, first thing to realise is that Australia is not Tahoe (and here I'm assuming that you're coming off the US ski season). I've talked skis with a few long time patrollers hereabouts (a few of whom patrol in the northern hemisphere as well) and the consensus is you don't need anything wider than about 88mm in Australia. Your average US west coast "all mountain" ski of 98mm is just going to be too wide much of the time. Consider what US east coast patrollers ski and start from there.
As a trainee patroller you'll spend a good part of your day sideslipping and ploughing around the hill and wider skis aren't the best tools for the job in the hardpack conditions that we often experience. We do have the odd serious powder day, although you can usually count those days on one hand each season, and trying to buy a ski to suit 2% of days doesn't seem a smart allocation of your $$$. You do see people cruising around on S7s and the like (I caught a lift with one guy who was telemarking on Line Prophet 115s last year) but they are few and far between.
I imagine the average width of all skis on the hill in Australia will be in the high-70s. That doesn't mean you need to do the same, of course, but I'll go back to the been-there-done-that patrollers I know; no wider than 88mm (or so) and that will be wider than average. A little early rise often helps off piste.
I ski Thredbo. Two patrol guys I call friends are aligned with certain brands. One skis the Elan Apex as his wider ski, and the other skis the Rossi Experience 88 any time he's not free skiing on his 'go-fast' narrower skis. I saw a lot of patrollers on the Rossi Experience 83 last year, so there must have been a good pro deal going on with Rossi.
Whatever you choose it needs to hold an edge on hardpack, slide you predictably on bulletproof sheet ice, be able to deal with heavy off piste conditions, be relatively easy to pivot and slip, and still be nimble enough to thread through a crowd of unpredictable punters on piste. So, ummm, an all mountain ski. I have two skis I consider "all mountain"; Head Monster iM78 and Kastle MX78 (no overlap there ). Both are biased towards on piste but get me all over our hill in most conditions. Mind you, I have a hole in my quiver (I have nothing in the 80s) and anything in that space would also be considered an all mountain ski.
[edit - One other thing, if you're deciding between two ski lengths consider going with the shorter one. In the US you're often advised to opt for the longer ski, but here people tend to ski a size down from the US due to the prevailing conditions]
Best of luck.
... although we'll take it if you're offering. We've lots of really flat desert to offer in exchange. The desert would fit right in - especially on the Nevada side. Slightly different colour though. You'd hardly notice the lake and surrounding mountains were gone.
I like my E88 for almost anything. I don't patrol much anymore, but did put in 10 years with NSP when I was active. I think a ski like the E88 would work well for you. Rossi had a great price for those on Pro-Deal and that deal was easily accessible to both NSP and PSIA members through the Pro-Deals page on both of those organizations websites. You could also look at the Temptation 88 which is exactly the same ski in shorter lengths with a different top-sheet, marketed as a female specific ski.
Do not, I repeat, do not look at the Aussie resort snow cameras for at least three or four more days. I'm reliably told the current rainy period will turn to snow once this little warm front passes. Keep looking at your pristine new Hell's Belles, rather than checking our current conditions and exclaiming "Hell's Bells!"