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Volkl Kendo 177 Need for Speed is Back!

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I am a extremely aggressive, rip up the groomers skier. Getting older I left my 30 years of Volkl experience to buy softer, easier to ski boards. All Eastern skiing for me and a few trips out West yearly. I had fun but at 65 it was not like the old days. I felt really good when I would read about older skiers not having to work at all. For some reason I was at the ski shop and saw a pair of Volkl Kendos miss drilled. The owner gave them to me for $300.. I had read several great write ups about them and on a whim bought them.

Well, they took me back about 20 years. I could short swing them down the fall line, Vadel them and do high speed groomers like I did in my 30s and 40s. I had to get used to the speed again the there was that old Volkl feeling that at 30 to 40, maybe 50mph, I could  do no wrong. I was dialed in, ridding on rails that could not be shaken. The energy in the ski was back and amazing. I took them to Holiday Valley and ripped up the mountain like I used to ski when I was younger. The only problem with the ski is I am going super fast for my age and although I am in complete control I wonder what a yard sale would do to me now. I am not going to slow down as the grin, fun factor and adrenaline rush is addictive. I have only been hurt one time  because in the old days on my Volkl P9s, 210cm and learned to roll when crashing. Again I dont know what would happen at this age but I cant wait for the new season and my first trip to telluride! I am thinking about buying movable bindings to make the Volkl a better ski (move it back) powder ski and Nastar racing (move it for word) which I have not done for about 7 years but the Kendos are taking me to a new dimension.

 

Age 65, 210lbs, foot beds, canted, aligined,  and ready to rock again.

 

Fred

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As a Kendo fanboy, I loved your post.  Thanks for the mid-summer flashback.   Speed is such a rush, and the Kendo just wants to go fast.  They feel like a sports car where every time you look at the speedo you are 25 over the limit.

 

What I love about Kendo is it's also great off-piste, and also loves speed there.  It's my favorite ski for ripping high speed steeps and bumps, then screaming at mach speed on a groomer back to the lift.  Like most Volkl's, you need to stay on top of them, same as driving a sports car.  They are not a Buick!

 

One tip: check your speed in pow with those skis, since they are a bit short for your weight in powder.  At 180lbs, I really like both the 170 and the 177, but I've gone down *really* hard at speed on the 170 and felt like I was in a car crash for a week.  It was in bumps with a foot of new and I buried the tips.  The 170 is short for me but still amazingly fun at speed everywhere, it just gave me more confidence than it should have in powder when I should have been on a 177.

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I know I am over the weight for the 177. I have several older Volkls at 188 and 190 that are just to hard for me to ski at my age. The Kendo is effortless with all attributes and feel of a racing ski without the effort. Of course it takes good technique to load it but the ski is amazing. I really wanted to buy a second pair in the next length but at the speed I am going now I dont know if that would be a good choice. 

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Nice post! I was a K2 fan until one day, demoing hard snow skis, I tried the P 50 F 1... The Volkls made K2 s feel like dead fish. I've had one Volkl or another ever since. I picked up some 177 Kendos this spring for next year. I've been skiing Mantras since they came out, but I wanted a more nimble version that would be stable at speed but also handle well at slower speeds. The Kendos do it all. I've managed to hurt myself twice on different versions of the Mantra ( for those who don't know, same layup as the Kendo, just a bit wider) both times shoulders, going fast, pitching forward after hitting nasty, uneven, icy snow. The common denominator here is late in the day when the snow was chewed up. Best time for Mach schnell is fresh cord. I'm nearly 60 and have healed up well, although I can tell when it's going to rain.....
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I was thinking about 183s but I am already going to fast. When I used to ski race stock skis there was a huge stiffness difference between sizes is stiffness of the ski. I wonder what it would be between 177 and 183 Kendos?

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Originally Posted by Mr. Crab View Post

Nice post! I was a K2 fan until one day, demoing hard snow skis, I tried the P 50 F 1... The Volkls made K2 s feel like dead fish. I've had one Volkl or another ever since. I picked up some 177 Kendos this spring for next year. I've been skiing Mantras since they came out, but I wanted a more nimble version that would be stable at speed but also handle well at slower speeds. The Kendos do it all. I've managed to hurt myself twice on different versions of the Mantra ( for those who don't know, same layup as the Kendo, just a bit wider) both times shoulders, going fast, pitching forward after hitting nasty, uneven, icy snow. The common denominator here is late in the day when the snow was chewed up. Best time for Mach schnell is fresh cord. I'm nearly 60 and have healed up well, although I can tell when it's going to rain.....

Thanks Mr. Crab, I agree, the recons were like butter compared to the Volkls! now what about 183s?

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I'm 170, 5'11" and the 177 skis light and nimble. I'd think, at your weight, the 183 would work well...however, if you already have the 177 it's a moot point. Having said that, demoing the 183 sounds like a good idea. I will if I get a chance, just to compare.
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I'm 170, 5'11" and the 177 skis light and nimble. I'd think, at your weight, the 183 would work well...however, if you already have the 177 it's a moot point. Having said that, demoing the 183 sounds like a good idea. I will if I get a chance, just to compare.
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Originally Posted by levy1 View Post

I was thinking about 183s but I am already going to fast. When I used to ski race stock skis there was a huge stiffness difference between sizes is stiffness of the ski. I wonder what it would be between 177 and 183 Kendos?

 

I can see owning the Kendo in two sizes since you like it so much.  I kinda have.  I've had a "demo pass" for years and years, and since the Kendo came out it's been my go to ski.  It says a lot about a ski when I can take out any of a pretty good selection and I keep going back to the same ski.  

 

At 5'11" 180 I've skied numerous days on all three of the 170, 177 and 184 Kendo. The 170 Kendo is great for firm snow, and the 177 for both firm snow and powder.  Beyond 6-8 inches new, there are other skis I'd rather be on. The 184 is the only one I wouldn't own and I've stopped going back to.  The 184 Kendo is too much like the 177 Manta I stopped skiing when the Kendo came out: not quick enough and too much work day to day.  

 

For you at 210lbs, just size up from me.  I think the 177 and 184 Kendo's could both have their place.  The 177 as your Eastern ski, and the 184 as your Western ski.  The question: is the 184 Kendo the *best* Western ski for you?  The answer: How about you demo for a few days on your next trip out West and compare both sizes of Kendos and a few others to find out?

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Great idea, Thanks

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