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Pedal hop turn

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Years ago,i learned the pedal hop turn, for steeps, which for me, 45 degrees or more.
I used to push off my uphill ski from a standstill.

Lately, from a standstill,i let my ski tips drift down a little, maybe 30 degrees, then I initiate by pushing off my uphill ski.
So what changed is the drifting of the tips down, instead of pushing off a stationery uphill ski.

Any comments on this change?
post #2 of 9
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Originally Posted by rod9301 View Post

Years ago,i learned the pedal hop turn, for steeps, which for me, 45 degrees or more.
I used to push off my uphill ski from a standstill.

Lately, from a standstill,i let my ski tips drift down a little, maybe 30 degrees, then I initiate by pushing off my uphill ski.
So what changed is the drifting of the tips down, instead of pushing off a stationery uphill ski.

Any comments on this change?

 

What's changed is you have become more confident.  (In case you are wondering, thats a good thing!).

 

Your "new technique" enables more speed and flow.

post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
no question you are right, it's a easier start.I'm wondering if in some conditions it isn't less safe, perhaps when the snow if hard or icy, if this would not put me in the backseat at the start??
post #4 of 9
Pedal turns were great for 205-210 skinny skis on steep, irregular, mucky, weird, difficult, snow when you had to get the skis out of the snow in order to turn them at all. Newer ski design has pretty much obviated the need for the pedal, but like anything else that one says is extinct, there'll always be a situation when you can pull it out of the old bag of tricks. YMMV.

(Haven't done one since skis got to around 85 underfoot.)
post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Mark, sorry to disagree but anything steep still requires pedal turns.you may not have to do a full 180 in the air, but pushing off the downhill ski hasn't changed.

The downhill leg is too straight.
And if you just relax the downhill leg, you wil turn, but the radius will be so long, that you wil pick up a lot of speed.

If you look at videos of people asking no fall terrain, they do pedal hop turns.
post #6 of 9

The movements are more supple because skis are shorter now. 

post #7 of 9
Thread Starter 
I am still looking for advice on my original question, if someone has some insight, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
post #8 of 9
What skidude said. It's always easier to start a 'big' move while in motion than it is from a static position. Momentum is your friend. It's as simple as that.
post #9 of 9

Pedal turns will live forever.  As long as people are skiing through an access or choke points where you have to side slip, we'll all be doing pedal turns.  

 

They really are a lot easier on today's skis.

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