Originally Posted by spknmike
Silver Mt will only groom 1 or 2 runs on days over 16 inches new. Full R/R works great on these days (except for the traversing).
Silver was exactly what I was thinking of when I wrote that.
Good to know they groom so little. Laps off Warner and down Shaft this Spring was why I decided I wanted a different ski than my DPS 138s. Silver likely does less grooming than even Alpental for the area involved. All it takes is the "run outs" to be groomed to make one rethink a R/R ski. Or at least for me to rethink a a R/R ski.
For me the transitions are unpleasant enough to rethink ski choices.
Funny, on the last run off Warner this April my buddy introduced me to the current Pro Patrol. They commented that my 138s were the first he'd ever seen at Silver.
On a good storm day where tracks were filling in on a soft snow base and only groomed the days previous, top of Warner (16:1) down Gold (Last Chance) was almost wonderful. Last bit cutting across groomed snow to Shaft wasn't all that great. The last half of the hill below the Assay Rd on Shaft wasn't all that pleasant. Shaft was incredible, out running the sluff in new snow every run, tight left. Warner was deep and wind effected. Both places where the DPS 138s shine.
I had the advantage of the 138 while my partner (a better skier than I) was on 95mm under foot. Laps down Kellogg's North glenns and finishing on the lower bit of Centennial just reinforced the fact that the 138s were out of their element. At least enough out of their element that I had wished for a different ski on half the mountain. Skied them many times here at Crystal and on the upper half of Alpental and never had a similar thought.
But then I bought my 138s with Silver in mind. Which was specifically hiking Warner, then skiing 16:1 via the Shaft to the bottom of chair 4 yoyos.
For that particular day mentioned I think a 112RP or some of my other skis of similar width would have been a much better choice. Gain 50% on the groomed snow and loose 10% or less in the soft snow would be my take.
Just my observation on one day of exceptional skiing and having a good size quiver to choose from. Sitting here at my desk rethinking the day I am still undecided. Of the top of Warner and the half dozen turns into the top of Shaft hard to fault the 138s...pretty amazing ski really. On the rest of the mountain and may be those same conditons the Huascaran, RPC or GPO would have been better choices for me I think. For the majority of laps on Kellogg's N Glenn and down there are better skis than the 138s imo..
All that said having skied the 138s there and with a pair of new Protests sitting here in my office. More snow than that day and I would take the Protests now.
The flip side of that is my buddy Jerry hammered me all day long on his 125/95/115mm ski. The advantage only went to me in those two small places. Even in the Pure version with tech bindings there was no advantage on the boot pack.
R/R skis are really fun. But to be honest I have to admit to the fact that I prefer other skis 99% of the time after spending some time on R/R. No heli ski trips planned at the moment. Chamonix again this winter hopefully. Praxis PBs are still tempting me though. Hopefully Keith won't find a unused pile of long PBs for the next Monday morning fire sale! If he does I am doomed
Edited by Dane - 6/26/13 at 3:55pm