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post #31 of 51

Stop agonizing over it and just get the Course Ti's.   If you like the RCs you will love the Course Ti.  It's basically the same idea, just executed better (more edge grip, smoother feel), and the additional length will allow for more stability.  Not that you're likely to push either past their speed limit in Virginia.

 

Yeah, it's a bit more forgiving than a full on race ski, but it also turns in a reasonable distance, which is important on small hills if you want to make more than 2 turns in a run.

 

I skied Vollkls for years, but after trying the Course Ti I've been converted.  Just buy 'em. You won't regret it.

post #32 of 51
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

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Originally Posted by jzamp View Post

Nordica and Blizzard are the same skis biggrin.gif

But with a ( slight) difference in carbon fiber dampening bars.

true!
Do you know if the difference is purely aesthetic or they actually have different characteristics? I've always wondered if that was the case...
Especially because Atomic/Salomon have the same double deck bars.

post #33 of 51
So all this talk about cheater vs FIS skis and we have no idea what boots he's driving them with. Time to back up and ask. A FIS ski needs a a stiff race fit boot IMHO.
Edited by markojp - 6/26/13 at 9:35pm
post #34 of 51

totally overlooked that! I guess since the OP talked about racing I assumed the boots were a non issue...
But yes, what kind of boots are you using pjm9fp?

post #35 of 51
Thread Starter 

Ah! My current boots are 2013 Lange RX 130

post #36 of 51
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Originally Posted by bluesbrother49 View Post

I would disagree on this description of the Speed Course Ti.  I have raced several GS courses on this ski and it's plenty of ski for me- 6'2 200lbs and grew up racing downhill/super g in Alaska.  It's construction is 2 layers of metal, torsion-box, poplar core, etc.  Real difference is the radius and length compared to a "real race ski".  You would be stoked on this ski, exactly what you are looking for.  Very popular among masters racers and rec league skiers.  Glassy smooth and stable- just doesn't take as much effort or real estate to turn.

What lenght do you ski?

post #37 of 51
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Ah! My current boots are 2013 Lange RX 130
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Do the dynastars and call it good. The RX is a very nice boot, but not torsionally stiff compared to even the 130 RS... It's all about the sole.
post #38 of 51
This poor guy. All he wants to do is run some gates for UVA, which I am assuming is University of Virginia...and like some mentioned NOT Vermont. He will be running glorified Nastar Courses with more emphasis on how close the beer will be to the finish line than the spacing of the gates. His original thought of the Course Ti is right on especially in that it is a ski that he can have fun on on the "packed powder" (see: powder packed to the consistency of diamonds then groomed with a zamboni) of the mid Atlantic. Will a women's gs work? Sure, if he wanted to get a race specific ski along with another ski but the Course Ti is still the better choice. I just hope with all the confusion that was added, that he didn't miss out on the pair he was looking at. Now...if he did and he does want a woman's gs, I am sure Start Haus will have no less than 30 pair at their consignment sale over Labor Day.
post #39 of 51
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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

This poor guy. All he wants to do is run some gates for UVA, which I am assuming is University of Virginia...and like some mentioned NOT Vermont. He will be running glorified Nastar Courses with more emphasis on how close the beer will be to the finish line than the spacing of the gates. His original thought of the Course Ti is right on especially in that it is a ski that he can have fun on on the "packed powder" (see: powder packed to the consistency of diamonds then groomed with a zamboni) of the mid Atlantic. Will a women's gs work? Sure, if he wanted to get a race specific ski along with another ski but the Course Ti is still the better choice. I just hope with all the confusion that was added, that he didn't miss out on the pair he was looking at. Now...if he did and he does want a woman's gs, I am sure Start Haus will have no less than 30 pair at their consignment sale over Labor Day.

icon14.gif to what Phil said. On my club racing team, the best skier, in a very good team, uses his Course Ti's all the time in Nastar style courses.

post #40 of 51
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Originally Posted by pjm9fp View Post

So here's two possible options I found online:

 

2012 Nordica GSR 176 cm ski (w/ 2013 Marker Comp 12.0 EPS bindings): $415, used three times

2013 Blizzard GS 176 cm ski (no bindings, looks to be in excellent shape per the pictures): $225

 

Both of these skis claim to be 21M, which seems to be right up my alley in terms of distance. Any thoughts on these? 

 

 

Assuming they are the race stock versions,  they should be 23m, not 21m but you will not see any discernible difference.   The Blizzard race stock GS is an excellent ski, my current favorite GS ski, and the Nordica is very similar.   The Blizzard (again assuming it is the race stock and not the consumer version - the race stock has the Marker Piston Plate) sounds a good deal at that price

post #41 of 51

UVA has an NCAA Ski Racing Team?  Or, is this more in an intramural thing?  If it is an actual NCAA team then the courses will be set as closely as possible to the same specs that other NCAA Ski Team Competition venues use including U Vermont. 

 

At the very least they would use the terrain that the local resort race team trains on, not the NASTAR trail.  For example, they might use Big Acorn at Wintergreen.  I saw a pretty good skier, race team coach, hook an edge on the edge of that and go cruising in to the woods, backwards, hit some rocks, stretchered out unconscious and not moving at allfrown.gif

 

Anyway, like I say it depends on if it is an NCAA team or an intramural type thing on what kind of terrain and courses they would ski.

post #42 of 51
^^^ crgildart, you didn't read the thread from the start. frown.gif
post #43 of 51
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^^^ crgildart, you didn't read the thread from the start. frown.gif


Nope, just read this..

 

 

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Originally Posted by Philpug View Post

This poor guy. All he wants to do is run some gates for UVA, which I am assuming is University of Virginia...and like some mentioned NOT Vermont. He will be running glorified Nastar Courses with more emphasis on how close the beer will be to the finish line than the spacing of the gates. His original thought of the Course Ti is right on especially in that it is a ski that he can have fun on on the "packed powder" (see: powder packed to the consistency of diamonds then groomed with a zamboni) of the mid Atlantic. Will a women's gs work? Sure, if he wanted to get a race specific ski along with another ski but the Course Ti is still the better choice. I just hope with all the confusion that was added, that he didn't miss out on the pair he was looking at. Now...if he did and he does want a woman's gs, I am sure Start Haus will have no less than 30 pair at their consignment sale over Labor Day.

Apologies for not reading the whole thread.th_dunno-1[1].gif  I guess I should have quoted ^ this in my post.

 

Reading the early posts about "not too serious" and "cafeteria trays" and "dead last" I still stand by my post.  It is still a legit NCAA program though the talent pool isn't nearly as deep obviously!

post #44 of 51
From the OP: "I go to UVA and ski club there". CLUB appears to me to be the key word.
post #45 of 51
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Racing against cafeteria trays may be accurate to a certain extent..hahah. Our slogan last season was 'mud on the slopes, no problem!' and that was a real situation unfortunately.


 

For even more background info, I race in the USCSA Southeastern conference, and by a minor miracle (and a couple wicked kids from Vermont/New Hamshire) we qualified for Nationals this past season out in Idaho. Tons of fun, obviously we finished close to dead last. That course at Sun Valley made me feel like I was on little twigs, and when we train at Sunday River we got a really great set down Monday Morning and I felt like another 5-10 inches on my skis would have really let me attack that course rather than feeling out of control and hooking a lot of my turns. 

 

 

I hope this helps, I'm sorry for being somewhat of a walking contradiction!

 

Again I said IF it is an NCAA program it is legit. 

 

If not.. and it appears it isn't in this case I shall add then whatever floats your cafeteria trays hahaha!  Regardless, it does sound a tad more challenging than NASTAR..  Why would it matter and why diss it because it is VA instead of Vermont, that is what hit a nerve.

 

I always take some offense when people sell ski areas and skiers short simply because they aren't from bigtime resorts.  Philly Philpug is well aware of this hahaha..

post #46 of 51
The Dynastar course Ti isn't selling the OP (or most all of us here for that matter for what the OP describes) short unless you need FIS skis to comply with the rules which I very much doubt he does. . Leave the eastern defensiveness thing out and you'll be good to go, cr.
post #47 of 51

It's more of a midwest defensiveness thingwink.gif  But it carries over to all regional disses that don't have a sarcasm smiley or this tongue.gif

 

Anyway hoping OP has a great season with whatever new skis they end up with.

post #48 of 51
Thread Starter 

I go out and play a round of golf and things get crazy here! Yep, the team at UVA (University of Virginia) is a club sport, racing in the USCSA.

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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

 

At the very least they would use the terrain that the local resort race team trains on, not the NASTAR trail.  For example, they might use Big Acorn at Wintergreen.  I saw a pretty good skier, race team coach, hook an edge on the edge of that and go cruising in to the woods, backwards, hit some rocks, stretchered out unconscious and not moving at allfrown.gif

 

 

Yikes..that's our home trail/practice trail (when it's open..which wasn't often the last two years). We haven't had any wrecks like that fortunately, but they seem to do a decent job setting/fencing off the trouble spots now. Any idea what year that accident was?

 

Bottom line, it looks like for what I'll be skiing/racing on that the Speed Course TI's will probably suit my needs best, and they're still available. Thanks for the advice everyone, I really do appreciate it!

post #49 of 51
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

It's more of a midwest defensiveness thingwink.gif  But it carries over to all regional disses that don't have a sarcasm smiley or this tongue.gif

 

Anyway hoping OP has a great season with whatever new skis they end up with.

Oh wow the bottom of your comment says you're an ambassador for Beech! The last two races we've had there have had such bad fog/rain that they were both shortened extensively

post #50 of 51
Thread Starter 

So just when I thought I had this all figured out...

 

I've got two options, both seem like excellent deals, and both seem like they could do the job but be better at different aspects of what I'm looking for.

 

Ski A: 2010 Volkl Racetiger GS R 175cm, 21M

Ski B: 2013 Dynastar Speed Course Ti, 15M

 

Obviously, the Volkl's would run differently than my current 2006 Volkl RCX's, but would give me the extra stability I didn't have on bigger courses/higher speeds. The counter to that is that those courses only happen on our training trip in Maine and at Regionals, which will be at Hunter this year. 

 

In a perfect world I'd just buy both, but I probably can't afford that right now. 

 

Last call for opinions? I'm guessing the Volkl's would give me better technique (I skied a teammate's once and I felt like I was going to fall over the ski initially until I stopped leaning so badly =P) but the Dynastars would be closer to what I already know and may be more effective and versatile once racing ends. Then again, these are supposed to be hardpack carvers if they're not on a course, so maybe the Volkl's would be better suited for that and a different ski all together would be a better 'do-everything' type of ski.

post #51 of 51

pjm9fp, tomorrow you need to go for a really hard workout in your chosen summer sport. After that, go for a brief swim to cool off and clean up. Don't forget to hydrate. Then fix yourself a big dinner. Over dinner, drink two large adult beverages. Life will be good. Then go to your computer and press the "buy" button. Go with your gut. Buy the one you want. It's all for enjoyment; no one's life is on the line. You're not designing a medical device. If you end up with a ski you don't particularly like, you can sell it and get a different one. Meanwhile you will have learned something and probably had a lot of fun along the way.

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