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Nordica Firearrow 84 EDT vs Rossignol Pursuit HP

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Me: 41; 6'1"; 185 lbs; level 8.5 skier; like to go fast and carve big arcs.

Long time lurker, first time poster. Looking to add a new frontside carver to my quiver. I'm currently looking at the Nordica Firearrow 84 EDT and the Rossignol Pursuit HP. How do they compare? What are the pros and cons? I ski about 30 days per year: 5 in Vermont; 5 in Colorado, Utah, or Canda: 20 in Mammoth.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.
post #2 of 17

Welcome to EpicSki!

The Nordica Fire Arrow 84 EDT gets rave reviews by friends in my circle.  

 

I'm pretty sure you'll get some good information about both of these skis considering how much info there is about both of them. 

post #3 of 17

Elan makes some really fun, high performing carving skis. Consider the Waveflex 14 and the Amphibio 88 XTi. They've also got some great recreational race skis that might be of interest. I'm an Elan fan with no industry connections or skin in the game. I just like to see good products get the recognition they deserve.

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Both would be a very nice option.  The main difference is in a wee bit of early rise versus rocking the full camber.

 

The Rossi "rocker" is a slight rise after the ski is decambered.  Looking at them they appear to be full camber but subtle pressure flattening the camber exposes a nice rocker profile that makes for a friendlier tip that doesn't hook nearly as often as a aggro carving machine.

 

Nordica makes some of my favorite skis.  Their build is superb, probably better than Rossi.

 

Don't forget other high end makes like Volkl.  Their Code Speedwall is a fine ride that carves like a razor yet has slight tip/tail rocker that makes them friendly and fun.

 

Whatever you do, demo to see how you like them before shelling out the cash, who knows, you may like something completely different.

 

But you can't go wrong with an Austrian or German carving ski.

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks! I'll make sure to demo them.

post #6 of 17
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Appreciate your advice!

post #7 of 17

Two of the better hard snow skis for this year..and next. IMHO, the Nordica is a better ski, more powerful with a higher top end than the Rossi, it is also $400 more..$1299 to $899, is the performance there? yes it is if you are discerning enough to appreciate it. The Nordica is very well the best hard snow (non race) I skied this season, so much fun. The Rossi just didn't have the power and pop that the FA offered, not that it was a bad ski, wasn't as good but again it was $400 less if the hard snow skis in the $900 range it was one of the better ones. 

post #8 of 17
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Thanks so much, Philpug. I love reading everything you post on this site. Very informative and insightful.

 

Outside of updated graphics, the Nordicas remain unchanged from last season to next, correct?

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Originally Posted by lloydyt View Post

Thanks so much, Philpug. I love reading everything you post on this site. Very informative and insightful.

 

Outside of updated graphics, the Nordicas remain unchanged from last season to next, correct?

 

Correct, just a slight graphic change for next year for the Nordica, the Rossi remains unchanged. 

post #10 of 17
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Thanks so much. I can get a pair of Nordicas for 50% off in a 176 cm. Do you think that's big enough for me? I'm 6'1"; 185 lbs; level 8.5 skier; ski 25 days out west and 5 days in Vermont. 

 

Thanks again!

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Thanks so much. I can get a pair of Nordicas for 50% off in a 176 cm. Do you think that's big enough for me? I'm 6'1"; 185 lbs; level 8.5 skier; ski 25 days out west and 5 days in Vermont. 

 

Thanks again!

50% off? Might want to snag them. 

post #12 of 17

I have the FA 84 and love the ski. I ski Mammoth about the same as you. My daily ski there is a Rossi EXP 98. FA84 early season and spring and Helldorado on deep days.

 

I've demoed the HP and liked it as well, but as previous people have said, I think the FA had an extra gear, extra bite, and more rebound.

 

I am 6', 200lb and ski a 184. I like the longer length for skiing the steeps, wind packed and chutes. If you are primarily going to be on the groomed, I think the 176 would suffice.

post #13 of 17
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Thanks so much. I'd be using them primarily to rail groomers. I have other skis for off-piste. 

post #14 of 17

Hi Phil,

 

How would you compare the firearrow 84 edt to the blizzard brahma for hard snow performance or over-all. I have a pair of Brahma's and I have a chance to get a pair of 2015 FA's for an awesome price. However, I have been told that the two may overlab. Would that be the case. I would use the FA's strictly for hard/firm race type snow.

Thanx,

Paul

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Hi Phil,

How would you compare the firearrow 84 edt to the blizzard brahma for hard snow performance or over-all. I have a pair of Brahma's and I have a chance to get a pair of 2015 FA's for an awesome price. However, I have been told that the two may overlab. Would that be the case. I would use the FA's strictly for hard/firm race type snow.
Thanx,
Paul

The F/A goes to '11'. Seriously. The F/A will either kick your butt, or pump you up! F/A's a groomer killing machine. Nothing really comes close until you get to race skis IMHO.
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The F/A goes to '11'. Seriously. The F/A will either kick your butt, or pump you up! F/A's a groomer killing machine. Nothing really comes close until you get to race skis IMHO.


I do have an Rossi HP as well and I like it, but I have to get it up to a certain speed to hook it up. Once I'm there, it's a blast and it totally rev's me up. I've heard that the FA is even better and I'm able to snag them right now for 699. So I think I'm gonna go for it.

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I've heard that the FA is even better and I'm able to snag them right now for 699. So I think I'm gonna go for it.

 

That's less than wholesale.

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