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post #61 of 66
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milesb,

Yes, I am aware of the T-Power Viper S's great bump characteristics. I actually demoed the TP Viper S 2 years ago and I did like that ski. The recent 9S Oversize looks very tempting too (although I think it is too SL specific).

For some reason however, I am still attached to the Elan HCX. It seems to have the best combination of carving, cruising, short-turn-quickness and bump friendly characteristices for me. I realize that a ski like HCX is a "jack of all trades and master of none". But that is what I want. [img]smile.gif[/img]
post #62 of 66
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Originally posted by TomB:
milesb,

Yes, I am aware of the T-Power Viper S's great bump characteristics. I actually demoed the TP Viper S 2 years ago and I did like that ski. The recent 9S Oversize looks very tempting too (although I think it is too SL specific).

For some reason however, I am still attached to the Elan HCX. It seems to have the best combination of carving, cruising, short-turn-quickness and bump friendly characteristices for me. I realize that a ski like HCX is a "jack of all trades and master of none". But that is what I want. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Two years ago I had same problem as you picking slalom ski. I demoed a lot and finally stayed with STOCKLI LASER SC , great RECREATIONAL slalom ski with pro origin .
post #63 of 66
Tom, don't be afraid to try a race ski. You are a strong enough skier to need the extra edge grip.
post #64 of 66
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Originally posted by milesb:
Tom, don't be afraid to try a race ski. You are a strong enough skier to need the extra edge grip.
Thanks milesb, it is very nice of you to say that, but I don't know if you are right. I really don't feel that I have the weight or the aggressive style required to get the best out of a race ski for a full day of skiing. I know that there are many recreational skiers who use top-of-the-line skis or race skis, yet few of them truly need such skis. It is like getting a Ferrari to drive to work everyday. You will be lucky to get out of second gear!

Assuming that I ski very aggressively 10% of the time, the question is: do I want skis that satisfy my needs 90% of the time or do I want skis that satisfy my needs 10% of the time. Even the 10% I ski more aggressively, I doubt that I can take a race ski to its limit.

Bottom line: I have been an athlete all my life (competed in several sports) and, as I age, the decrease in strength, agility and stamina is so painfully obvious, that I cannot imagine why I should be on the same ski as, for example, Heluvaskier, who is around my bodyweight, but much younger, much better skier and a racer to boot.

I am not being modest either. Over the last few years I have truly experienced a sharp decline in my athletic abilities and I have tried very hard to be more conservative, to avoid injuries and "preserve" myself. As Warren Miller aptly pointed out: if you think you are as good a skier at 40 as you were at 20, you must have sucked at 20. [img]smile.gif[/img] I did not ski at 20, but I was an athlete and compared to today, I was superior in every way. I am learning to accept that. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
post #65 of 66
You don't have to be testosteroned up to appreciate most of the race skis. I'm 55 and a few medical problems have slowed me down a bit but ...

My Stockli SC's and SL's are my every day skis. Pushing beginners to those few free runs on a busy day. And, I have fun doing it.

GS .... well that's another story. I traded down and the SC's (skied one size up ... 168) are now my GS skis. The SL's are 156 and 168.
post #66 of 66
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Thanks everyone for the advice given. I really appreciated all the feedback, and also learned a few things in the process.

After much head scratching I bought the Elan HCX ski. Originally I wanted to wait for a demo (Tremblant has a demo day mid-December), but there is no guarantee that Elan will be there. Furthermore, the Elan distributor in Montreal has indicated that they may run out of specific sizes if I wait too long.

So I got the 154 cm version and put a Tyrolia Free Flex Plus 7 binding (DIN 3-11) with a Tyrolia Speed Plate 15, which is compatible with free flex technology. This combination will place me about 52 mm off the snow. According to Tyrolia, the 15mm plate provides "triple damping and shock absorbing" but it does not stiffen the ski.

I did consider mounting a RailFlex binding (where both heel and toe are floating), but the RailFlex plate has no dampening and offers too little height. I also had reservations about the idea of a floating toe. It's probably no big deal, but with such a short ski I wonder about the toe traveling along the front of a flexing ski (even if it is very small travel).

I also bought my wife a pair of Elan Whisper 8.0 skis (152cm 110-71-94). This should give her a light, turny ski with a substantial footprint for nastier conditions. My wife is not picky and does not care on what she skis, but I am hoping that this will give her some advantages over her old and "heavy" Volant (163cm 103-63-90) skis.

So there, we both finished our Christmas shopping.
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