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Marker Race Xcell 12-16 bindings

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I saw them on 2014 Völkl/Nordica/Blizzard demo skis last month, but didn't get to try them. Some popular online race ski stores have started stocking them already. I wonder if any Epicskiers got to try them.

They look good and received some good initial publicity. Something I'm mulling over as I need bindings for my Völkl and Blizzard skis, eventually for the 13/14 season.

http://www.ispo.com/award/en/All-Sports/WINNER-2013/PRODUCTS/SKI/BINDINGS/MARKER
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Are you thinking abut putting them on your current race skis? If so, you might not be able, the toe scre pattern is now 4 hole vs. the previous piston plats being just 3 hole. The new plates for 2014 will accommodate both the 3 and 4 hole designs but not the older plates.
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Yes, I wouldn't mind having the stock plate replaced or modified for improved safety and piece of mind, provided the Xcell indeed is a significant step forward from their old and notorious race binding construction.
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Yes, I wouldn't mind having the stock plate replaced or modified for improved safety and piece of mind, provided the Xcell indeed is a significant step forward from their old and notorious race binding construction.

Nothing has been "proven" that the X-cell's are better. The toe does appear to have more lateral elasticity than the previous design but the heel (specifically the 16) doesn't seem to be as substantial. 

 

Yo can see here that the metal base of the NEW Xcell is visibly wider than the outgoing 16

 

 

As far as the toe, the red cylinder is for shock absorption. The wings are also longer for more elasticty and now the toe incorporates a sliding (plastic) AFD a la Jesters and Griffons vs. the whole sliding metal plate again from the previous generation. The other huge difference is a lateral spring vs. the longitudinal one. 

 

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The heel binding is not as substantial? in what ways? Overall, they appear better on paper, don't they? Yes, I like the sliding toe pieces with contact rollers than the sliding plate. I also read that the heel has a 16mm threshold prior to release--don't know how that compares to the outgoing model.
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The heel binding is not as substantial? in what ways? Overall, they appear better on paper, don't they? Yes, I like the sliding toe pieces with contact rollers than the sliding plate. I also read that the heel has a 16mm threshold prior to release--don't know how that compares to the outgoing model.

Again, I said nothing has been "proven" either way. The outgoing heel is metal, the new one is plastic and the pivot point is now hollow vs. the solid one where we have seen no problems with breakage. I think we will see more stout features on the 20 which we are told is still a year out. I do think the 4 screw pattern is a big change with the 4 screws being under the toe verses the 3rd one on the old one being back behind it. 

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Philpug,
In your opinion, what are the benefits of a lateral spring vs. a longitudinal? It seems like Marker is really moving in that direction with its new models...

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Again, I said nothing has been "proven" either way. 

Any update/issues so far on the Xcell?

Also, can the new marker piston be retrofitted in replacement of the old piston--are mounting screws positioned the same?
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