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post #91 of 105
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Originally Posted by snowalker View Post
 

You know about that  cliff?   I'm not the type that tries to ski that sort of thing.  it just makes a good picture of me trying to get someone else in trouble.


No, what cliff is it? I was wondering what type of stories you told your kids about cliffs.

post #92 of 105

Tog,

 

I think that picture was taken  in the far back area of The Canyons just as  one gets off  a lift and moves out  to the left,  but I really can't recall.

 

I don't encourage a lot of that sort of risk-taking.  I do recall getting into a canoe in Georgia right before a thunderstorm 40 years age and a friend looked up at the sky and said, "This looks like the sort of thing Walker gets people into!" thirty minutes later we were on the shore with lightning hitting all around.

 

  When it comes to skiing I just like to point out that if one is on a steep blue  or reasonably free of dangers black and one gets bored,  he can always just go straighter and faster.  I try to stay away from the sorts of woods and chutes where a mistake is very likely to get me badly injured or killed.

post #93 of 105

thanks for the reply!

post #94 of 105
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Originally Posted by JohnJ80 View Post

On the pins -

THe Backcountry Receptor MIPS (if I got that name right) has a shear pin at the top rear of the helmet.  They give you an extra one to replace it.  I would guess that is POC's implementation of it.  I also noticed that in pictures the Fornix MIPS apparently does not have a replaceable shear pin.  I would guess that is because it is an EPS helmet and any force that shears the pin also compresses the EPS foam and the helmet would need to be replaced anyhow.  Since the EPP in the helmet we have can take multiple hits and returns to it's original form, it does not have to be replaced or at leasts replaced only if other damage occurs to the helmet so replacing the shear pin is doable.

J.

This thread overall has been very informative. I need a new helment, mine isn't doing much except providing warmth at this point. I saw the MIPs and thought I would research., but this thread has provided me a better understanding of the combination of technologies used in these helments then I have found anywhere else. I liked the poc receptor backcountry, but was having trouble justifying cost if it was a one shot deal. I would hate to drop it and have the pin sheer and be SOoL. I haven't looked at RED yet and will review some of the others mentioned. My wife got me somer super nice Shawn white Oakley googles for Xmas. Anyone wear MIPS helments with these? They say POC has a removable google retainer, but based on comments here am guessing it must remove itself when your head slides in snow as well. Any thoughts on google combinations/limitations with these MIPS helments would be of interest. Thanks!
post #95 of 105
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Originally Posted by EpicBumps View Post
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. Anyone wear MIPS helments with these? They say POC has a removable google retainer, but based on comments here am guessing it must remove itself when your head slides in snow as well. Any thoughts on google combinations/limitations with these MIPS helments would be of interest. Thanks!

You can get the stick on goggle retainers that go on the side or even back if need be. The silicone rubber in the goggle band does do a good job of holding it but if you frequently keep the goggles on top though, you'll want the clips.

post #96 of 105
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Originally Posted by EpicBumps View Post
I haven't looked at RED yet and will review some of the others mentioned. My wife got me somer super nice Shawn white Oakley googles for Xmas. Anyone wear MIPS helments with these? They say POC has a removable google retainer, but based on comments here am guessing it must remove itself when your head slides in snow as well. Any thoughts on google combinations/limitations with these MIPS helments would be of interest. Thanks!

I have the RED HiFi MIPS, it doesn't use pins like the POC, rather it has plastic "hanging chads" to affix the MIPS layer.

 

The Oakley Splice and Airbrake goggles i tried (prob all oakley's), have clip at the sides therefore leaving just the elastic band to fit the rear helmet clip. 

 

I got and recommend the following product for goggles with strap buckle at the back (read the user reviews), - 

http://www.backcountry.com/smith-universal-helmet-helper?ti=U2VhcmNoIFJlc3VsdHM6c21pdGggZ29nbGUgZXh0ZW5kZXI6Mjo4OnNtaXRoIGdvZ2xlIGV4dGVuZGVy

post #97 of 105

I should add my recent experience with the MIPS Backcountry -- didn't like wearing it at all for the two days I skied last week.

I will first say, though, that the technology advantage itself is obvious. That's why I bought it. I wish every helmet would use it.

 

- I tried several sizes and pad configurations, but could not find a comfortable fit. I have a big head, and even the XL was tight enough to be annoying to the point of distraction, even while skiing. Adjusting and adding/removing the padding didn't help. As for the padding...

- ...the pads were easy enough to move, but the velcro attaching them was unreliable. Some would stay put, and in other places both sides would stick to either the pads or the helmet. when I put the helmet on, only some of the pads would stick.

- I kept pulling out the neckroll/ear covers when trying to pull the helmet down on my head -- this is admittedly pilot error, but the UI should be better.

- I felt like a bobblehead doll with it on. Too top heavy, too tall.

- Gaper gap with my Smith goggles.

- The rear goggle clip was flimsy, and it had to be way off center to accommodate the strap buckle.

 

But

 

- I was not overheating, despite having the vents closed.

- The audio neckroll is a fantastic accessory.

- The MIPS made me feel safer, though not to the point of carelessness. After my encounter with a tree last year, which broke my arm and jostled my brain around a bit (which is why I got a helmet in the first place), I counted on being over-cautious but was not.

 

The shop took it back without a hassle, and I left with a Vantage instead, which fit me and my goggles perfectly. While inferior in the glancing blow and rotational protection departments, it will get worn. I made an effort to buy (what sounded like) the best helmet, cost notwithstanding, I was already considering not using it on the second day. Too bad, I was stoked to have it and was willing to use it after 35 years of only wool head protection.

post #98 of 105

FWIW, couple of other non-POC MIPS on the market; POC tends to fit round heads better than long heads. More next year, as well as expanded POC range. Unclear about who's using EPP foam besides POC. 

post #99 of 105
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Originally Posted by beyond View Post

FWIW, couple of other non-POC MIPS on the market; POC tends to fit round heads better than long heads. More next year, as well as expanded POC range. Unclear about who's using EPP foam besides POC. 
I have the POC Fornix MIPS and have a very oval head. It fits really well.
post #100 of 105

I have no idea what shape my head is -- my wife would say it's a torus.

The Smith helmet seems to fit perfectly, though. Next time I'm at the shop I'll compare the Backcountry and the Formix.

post #101 of 105
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Originally Posted by Trekchick View Post


I have the POC Fornix MIPS and have a very oval head. It fits really well.

Yeah, agree. I've found that the Comp and Skull are the "roundest" POC's, while the Fornix and the Receptor are somewhat more oval. I'm prolly a bad example since I have one of those Neandertal skulls that's very long and narrow. Very few helmets have a chance with me. 

post #102 of 105

Started using these this year.  Fantastic product & rock solid attachment.  I doubt I'd be able to remove & switch to a new helmet.  Purchased for daughter's helmet that has a small brim, but ended up ordering a few sets for myself.  Micros are perfect.  $16 well spent.

http://www.gogglegrip.com/snow/

 

post #103 of 105

I'm going to try  a strip of velcro on the back of the backcounty POC and a matching strip on the goggle strap.

post #104 of 105
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Originally Posted by rskornak View Post

Started using these this year.  Fantastic product & rock solid attachment.  I doubt I'd be able to remove & switch to a new helmet.  Purchased for daughter's helmet that has a small brim, but ended up ordering a few sets for myself.  Micros are perfect.  $16 well spent.
http://www.gogglegrip.com/snow/




Yep. Poc can't figure it out though.
post #105 of 105
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Originally Posted by snowalker View Post
 

I'm going to try  a strip of velcro on the back of the backcounty POC and a matching strip on the goggle strap.


You just need it on the helmet itself.  No need for anything on the goggles.  i have been doing tjsi for years with all my helmets, including POC

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