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post #61 of 69

also check out the Maxxis Ikon 2.35 better than the ardent except on dry/dry loose.

post #62 of 69

 

Just finished building this. Its a Gary Fisher Roscoe made the last year they made that brand. I planned to build it with 26" wheels but after measuring things I also bought a set of 650B wheels to go on it. The 27.5x2.35 tires are a tad more snug up front than I want so I ordered some 27.5x2.25. So far the ride is interesting as it feels much more stable than I expected with the 650B wheels than with the 26" wheels. Unfortunately for biking (but fortunately for skiing) we are getting a huge winter storm in the mountains which will probably close the trails for the year before I could really test this bike. I'll report back in the spring.


Edited by Rio - 9/25/13 at 6:58am
post #63 of 69
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wider tires are faster IMO, less rolling resistent on rou.h terrain, the only variable is how wide and how rought

 

Agreed, tests have shown this to be true (see the Scwalbe website) but at some point a 2.4" wide tire gets a bit much under a 130# rider that is not super-agro (it harder to get them to initiate grip quickly and then there's the added weight).

post #64 of 69

I agree too.  I try to find a balance between width and weight.  Some fat tires are quite heavy, and while they might roll nicely on rough, you still have to keep them spinning on the up hill.  The Panceti Neo Motos are 2.3 and come in at 700+ish, which is the weight were I tend to draw the line.  On the other hand, I have had wear issues (as in the tires wear out fast) for some great performing fat light weight race tires, so I now avoid them.

 

How does the IKON do with wear?

post #65 of 69
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Matta View Post
 

wider tires are faster IMO, less rolling resistent on rou.h terrain, the only variable is how wide and how rought

 

Agreed, tests have shown this to be true (see the Scwalbe website) but at some point a 2.4" wide tire gets a bit much under a 130# rider that is not super-agro (it harder to get them to initiate grip quickly and then there's the added weight).

 

+1 Agree with all that. Plus if I were on 2.4s I'd have to run them at about 12psi to get the feel I like, and then I suspect they'd be way too roly-poly on my narrow-ish xc-guy rims. I wouldn't go to 2.4s without also going to a true all-mountain rim width as a proper foundation for all that tire.

post #66 of 69
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...How does the IKON do with wear?

I don't know about the IKON's (that's a faster-wearing race day tire- I'm using the Ardent and only in the front).  It's wearing well (I only see a bit of wear to the edge knobs after nearly a full season, then again front tires don't wear quickly for me - I can usually run them for 2+ seasons).

post #67 of 69
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I agree too.  I try to find a balance between width and weight.  Some fat tires are quite heavy, and while they might roll nicely on rough, you still have to keep them spinning on the up hill.  The Panceti Neo Motos are 2.3 and come in at 700+ish, which is the weight were I tend to draw the line.  On the other hand, I have had wear issues (as in the tires wear out fast) for some great performing fat light weight race tires, so I now avoid them.

 

How does the IKON do with wear?

 

my 2.35  29er weigh 580grams a piece I routinely set KOMs on strava up, down and across on them. so far great wear and durable. I charge rock gardens and these have not had any tears yet.
 
I running them on Stan's Flow tubeless at 18-25 psi depending on the day.
post #68 of 69
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Want to know how you can tell that 26" wheels are dead? When someone makes a video called "26" is not Dead".

 

http://www.vitalmtb.com/videos/member/26-is-Not-Dead,22978/iceman2058,94

post #69 of 69

Well, I just ordered one of these, mainly cause I just don't know any better :dunno

 

Anyone want a dead Fuel EX9?

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