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post #31 of 58
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UnofficialNetworks posted this pict from Las Lenas a couple days ago:

AppleMark

 

 

It shows how much this part of the Andes can be volatile... after 1 month of super dry weather, they got this in less than 24 hours.

 

Sure they take a while to open terrain after a storm like this.

post #32 of 58
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So I just finished up the qualifying day here in El Colorado, conditions were amazing, can't say how I did as the stream is just starting on powdermag.com I ran number 52

Watching the ladies now, looks like some nice freshies!  Bueno suerte...

post #33 of 58

Just turned it back on just as your run began, way to get after it!

post #34 of 58
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Just turned it back on just as your run began, way to get after it!

 

Thanks man! Super fun event, learnt a lot and had a great time.
post #35 of 58

I just posted about this in Big Mt Competition. 

FWT Qualifier

 

Jim, are you THAT Jim? 

post #36 of 58
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I just posted about this in Big Mt Competition. 

FWT Qualifier

 

Jim, are you THAT Jim? 

Haha, unfortunately not, no! My actual name is James Winfield, I came 20th after a sending it too big and too flat twice. Jim's a good dude though and wants to come work with Andrew (2nd) and I in Portillo, so we'll see how that goes. 

post #37 of 58
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Thanks man! Super fun event, learnt a lot and had a great time.

I watched about half of the men competing and must say that your turns were among the most fluid and technically sound that I saw. Very pleasing to the eyes of this mere mortal. Many of the others seem to just slash and check there way down to the airs where you seemed to enjoy your time between the features. Just unlucky on the landing zones. Good luck this season and nice skiing!!!!

Agreen

post #38 of 58

I didn't see the competition, just followed the news updates. 

Glad to hear you're so stoked about the experience. Wish I'd seen it. 

post #39 of 58
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I didn't see the competition, just followed the news updates. 

Glad to hear you're so stoked about the experience. Wish I'd seen it. 

It's still on the powder site, I think my run was around the 3.20 mark. 

post #40 of 58
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I watched about half of the men competing and must say that your turns were among the most fluid and technically sound that I saw. Very pleasing to the eyes of this mere mortal. Many of the others seem to just slash and check there way down to the airs where you seemed to enjoy your time between the features. Just unlucky on the landing zones. Good luck this season and nice skiing!!!!

Agreen

Thanks very much! Tried to keep my turns fluid, but it can be tough when you're not entirely sure where you're going!

post #41 of 58

So this morning I woke up at 5.30 to go help fix the Roca Jack lift after it broke in an avvy. 

 

 

More shots on my blog, jameswinfield.tumblr.com

post #42 of 58

Jim, I also watched your run.  Agree, your turns were long, fluid, and you grabbed plenty of speed.  Is there another qualifying even you'll go to?

post #43 of 58

Cheers Liquidfeet, I'm not sure about qualifiers this coming season, I'll definitely do the Chile comp again next year (Portillo might even pay my entry which would be great), but I am based in Japan in the northern hemisphere and there are no comps there. I might take part of March off and go to Europe or the US, but although the comps are fun, it would end up costing me a lot of money so I'm unsure. 

post #44 of 58

Jim, take a look at this thread and give this guy a shout.  

We skied with him a few years ago.  Super fun!

http://www.epicski.com/t/121256/portillo-august-10-17-2013#post_1607474

post #45 of 58

 

Some shots from the FWQ comp and skiing yesterday in this edit I made for a online competition. 

post #46 of 58

Hey, here's a blog from last week about heading up Super C before work

 

http://jameswinfield.tumblr.com/post/59896671035/race-you-to-lineup-hiking-super-c-before-work

 

 

Portillo's actually looking pretty good right now, we had a surprise 10cms of snow yesterday and now it's clear.

post #47 of 58
Thread Starter 
Great skiing in Cerro Castor - Ushuaia, during the last few days. Solid base all the way to the valley floor.
post #48 of 58

30cms or so last night, the mountain is shut for avvy control atm, but it'll be great when it opens!

post #49 of 58

Whoa!  That's some killer snow for late season in SA!  Good time for you, eh?

post #50 of 58
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Whoa!  That's some killer snow for late season in SA!  Good time for you, eh?

 

Right now everything good is still shut, as the storm is continuing and the avvy danger is through the roof, so I am getting all my admin for Japan sorted. Tomorrow should be epic though, some of the FWT guys are trying to get across here from Mendoza, and work should be v. quiet, so actually the whole week should be great!

post #51 of 58
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Fresh snow all over the Andes, winters are getting later around South America every year.

Even Las Lenas, which is already closed for the season, got lots of snow...


That's why there is no reason to book I trip to any resort in the Andes before August.

 

Nevados de Chillan this morning

 

Catedral - Bariloche, this morning

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Still snowing in Valle Nevado

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post #52 of 58

I'm not sure about winters getting later every year, this time last year we were shut, the year before it didn't snow the last 3 weeks of September. Stoked it's late this year though. 

post #53 of 58

Really sick day today, took quite a few shots, here are the only ones on FB at the moment. 

post #54 of 58
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June and July are supposed to be the 2 wettest months for many parts of the Andes, And I've been observing tha during many seasons in the last decade, considerable dry spells occured during these months, and August has been the most reliable one, not only for snow deep, but also for chances of powder days.
September definitely not always a good bet, since the sun angle is pretty high

I guess Tony Crocker should know ir better though
post #55 of 58

Hard data is hard to come by: I have 38 years of annual snowfall for Portillo and 24 years of June-Sept for Las Lenas.   For the 24 years July > June > Aug > Sept.  The dropoff is significant by North American standards, with Sept being <40% of July.

 

But the most prominent feature of South America ski area weather is its extreme volatility, twice as much as the Rockies and 1.5x as much as the Sierra.   It's futile to chase powder from the opposite hemisphere; the best you can do is try to minimize having inadequate coverage.  That's the primary reason to avoid June/July, give more time for snow to accumulate.  The secondary reason is that late July is holiday season when crowds and prices are highest.

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September definitely not always a good bet, since the sun angle is pretty high 

Spring conditions are widespread in September for that reason as well as less average snowfall.   But at Las Lenas you're better off with deep cover and spring conditions than with inadequate coverage or with bad weather and Marte closed.   With the volatility it's always a crapshoot to some degree, but August gives you the best overall shot.

post #56 of 58
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But the most prominent feature of South America ski area weather is its extreme volatility, twice as much as the Rockies and 1.5x as much as the Sierra.  

 

I guess the extreme south of South America might be the only exception to this extreme volatility. Even with more freezing level issues, southern ski areas don't usually get long dry spells such as resorts close to Santiago or Mendoza.

 

By the way, do you have any idea of the water content for the "drier" and higher resorts in South America?

Santiago and Mendoza region are pretty much a desert during 7 months of the year.

 

I've skied Valle Nevado and Portillo during powder days and the snow felt super dry. Some of the driest snow I've ever skied.

They certainly have more of a quantity issue, than a quality one.

post #57 of 58

I too would expect more consistency of snowfall moving south.  The place I would really like to see data from is Termas de Chillan.  I invite someone from South America to hunt it down if it exists.

 

I would not expect water content from Portillo, Valle Nevado, Las Lenas to be that dry.  Mammoth is at similar altitude and distance from the Pacific Ocean and its water content average is 12.9%.  The high altitude is effective in preventing rain but not in lowering water content.  Wind may be a factor in compacting Mammoth's snow, but the aforementioned areas also get a lot of wind.  I observed a lot of wind compaction at Las Lenas.

post #58 of 58
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Yeah, I guess California gets pretty dry during several months of the year as well, and still it's not a super dry snow winter spot...

 

I think there are places in the Andes that may get more than 300-350 inches per winter, but probably they are very far from big urban areas.

Southern Chile has very wet winters.

 

Chillan is relatively more reliable than Santiago / Mendoza resorts, in my opinion, these picts were taken in mid-August, after a 3 days storm, a few years ago:

 

Chillan base area:

 

Maybe the perfect resort for South America regarding snow, would be in southern Chile, bellow 45 degrees south, with a base above 4000ft.

It might be a glaciar though...:cool

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