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Ski Logik Rock Star vs H2O Gear Kodiak v Surface Live Life vs Icelantic Keeper vs Moment Bibby Pro for Big Guy EC spring slush & part time powder ski

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Thanks to prior posts it looks like I have narrowed my big guy (5'11", 280lbs) EC spring slush, part time powder ski to something in the 120mm under foot. Probably need a stiffer tip and maybe some camber. What are your thoughts on the following: Ski Logik Rock Star vs H2O Gear Kodiak v Surface Live Life vs Icelantic Keeper vs Moment Bibby Pro. I don't really have the opportunity to demo and I like the smaller ski companies. My NJ ski is the Dynastar Speed Course TI and I am looking for an alternative.
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I have skied none of these, and weigh 115 lbs less than you. Therefore I'm totally qualified to give advice.

 

Which would be the Kodiak. 1) Because it's made by Praxis, who IMO are making some of the highest quality skis out there, indie or major, and have a rep for not being shy about stiffness. Which you need. 2) Because Real Skiers picked it as Freeride Ski of the Year, with scores it usually reserves for 75 mm carvers; R.S. tends to undervalue fat skis. And because out on the Interwebz, it has been viewed as a great burly freeride for people who know how to carve. Blister Reviews, for instance, has two reviews whose differences are pretty revealing.

 

I'm sure there are folks on Epic who have skied the rest (and one who's skied the Kodiak that I know of), so they'll chip in. As if they actually know something. Hah!

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Thread Starter 
Thanks for the thoughts. FYI I sent H2O an email inquiry a few days ago and still no response. My wife the non skiers is looking at me like I have 2 heads for looking at skis on Memorial Day weekend.
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Since you weigh more than the average skier, here is a suggestion: Call or email each company and see what the president suggests for you.  I am serious since you can usually get the owner on the phone in the off season, and because using the same make and model of ski in a different legngh sometimes gives a much more different skiing experience than using competing brands in the same length (which is why my take on the Rock Star is a bit different than the guy from ExoticSkis.com).  Some of these companies can crank out a custom ski, which might also be an option.   

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I weigh a little less than you (255) and own four pair of Ski Logiks so know the line to a degree. I have not skied the Rock Star but have flexed it and it flexes soft tip to tail. A better choice in that brand would be the Bomb Squad 124 mm under foot, which I own. It has some early rise/front rocker, it will handle slop to hard packed groomers to powder. The Ski Logik rep for Tahoe skis it as his daily driver and uses the Depth Hoar 143 mm under foot for powder days (I own it also). The description on the Ski Logik site I feel is misleading for the Rock Star. A local sponsored Ski Logik and shop employee who is 80 lbs lighter than me uses the Rock Star mounted with tele bindings and said it would be too soft for me.

 

Also look at Praxis Ullr 123 mm under foot comes in a 175, 185, and 194. $577.99 but you can use praxis or epic in the discount code to get another 10% off which works out to 520 plus 24 for shipping but no tax. As suggested you can email Keith at Praxis and he will give you a detailed answer to any and all questions. He is very knowledgeable, very honest, and I trust him. Also look at his GPO 116 mm underfoot, he tells me it is very versatile in a wide range of conditions.

 

I have demoed H2O gear Karen 'cito', when it had a different name but is wider than the H2O gear ski you mentioned. It is a all out powder board 133 mm underfoot.

 

I applaud your seeking out indie skis companies, by accident I have done the same thing, for the past several seasons I have purchased either Ski Logik or Praxis skis and am quite pleased.

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I have a Praxis BPS 193cm in Gear Swap that sounds like it would fit what you're after.. But it's a bit wider than 120mm.
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I love my 183, 110 under foot Live Life's if its at least a little soft. Its been my daily driver at Squaw. I'm 6'2" and a lean 235#'s.  The Live Life is light, poppy, charges and carves crud and pow. For harder snow, it could be a little less rocker'ed in the tail. Maybe a little wide for tight bumps.  I haven't skied any of the others. I've been tempted by the Bibby. I just bought the 189 Scott Punisher. The Life Live is getting a little beat. Considered getting another one but didn't find any screaming deals.  Other skis I have and like, 189 Hellbent, 185 Chopsticks, 185 Praxis Powder. I'm thinking of getting rid of my 191 Movement Goliath. Not liking the big wide, flat tail as much as I used to. Just bought some 183 Armada TST's for harder days and tighter bumps.

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I have only skied the Skilogik RockStars and  the Surface Live Life, and for someone with your weight, I think both of these would be too soft.

I would call Keith at Praxis and have him get you a custom flex in one of his models around that width you're looking for.  You will be satisfied...just ask anyone who owns a Praxis!

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