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Welcome to Epic, @CameronPond

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What makes Shiffrin the phenom she is this early season is harder to pin down. Her coach, Roland Pfeifer, a former Austrian racer and coach, points to early training in the fundamentals.

“Somewhere between 5 and 10 years old she has had a very good education on the right way to ski,” Pfeifer said, also speaking by phone from Austria. “Somebody showed her how to ski upright with her weight forward, with a very calm upper body and the upper body and lower body moving independently. So she was always technically a very, very good skier. The only thing I have done is teach her to ski with more aggressiveness and power.”


Hey no $hit Herr Sherlock. I wonder if middle school and HS at Burke Mt Academy helped? 

5-10?  BS.  U12, 14, 16  -  yeah more like it.  

If you have not skied at Burke and seen the program, make it a point to go.  Cheap, old school, hard core.  FUN skiers MT!!!!

PS. Hands off.  Mikaela is MY next ex-wife circa 2025.

post #273 of 281
Pat, I have a feeling Roland knows his business a bit better than you or I do. If she was taught great fundamentals early on (both her parents were racers) then she was very coachable by the time she got the Burke, where she no doubt improved.. She's also been under the consistent tutelage of her mom. Now she's working with US Team coaches... Like their athletes, they're there for very good reason....specifically because they're really good at what they do. So yeah, I think your kind of trash talking out your rear end. smile.gif
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5 - 10 sounds right.
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also consider that her family didn't have her race as much as possible, rather they did quite the opposite. With her the focus has always been quality over quantity, technique over "speed"

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Also when someone is exceptional you need to look into what factors separate that individual from the pack. Attending the same academy or program as hundreds of others is not one such factor.

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good point jamt.

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Yes there is more to this equation than meets the eye. Fact of the mater is that raw athleticism makes an enormous difference and I frankly feel from reading alot of posts on this site that it is often ignored. I personally credit BMA grads (dated one for a few years that was on the C team) for helping me drop about 60 points while skiing in college... Interestingly she said alot of the same things in that quote above. (Particularly on fluid and relaxed upper body)


For me the interesting part about skiing is that I'm totally obsessed with it, watch wcup footage constantly, have skied so, so many days over the years and still cant touch some of my buddies that skied around 40 USSA points at the height of their skiing. (even though they don't take it seriously at all anymore)


Its ironic bc I feel that I understand technique really well after skiing with so many actually talented people, being coached by awesome people, being paid to coach myself... at some point the question eventually becomes about you and not technique... 

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I remember a 9-10 year old who skied  in a race program I worked with over  20 years ago.  One of the coaches said at the time, boy, so and so has a really nice touch on the snow.  I realize now, that some of the reason this skier had a nice touch on the snow is most likely because  he had good natural alignment.  As someone who had a great left turn and a not so great right turn for the first 30 years he skied, I now know that rather than learning how to ski well at a young age , I was spending some of my talent on coping with poor alignment on one leg.  (Alignment was not well understood or given much attention 40- 50 years ago.    If a young skier has good natural alignment at an early age,  they have better early success and attract more attention and, maybe better coaching.  More early success maybe means more focus on skiing .     It takes a number of special circumstances for a skier to reach the top.  Good alignment, opportunity, money,  physical talent, determination and good coaching to mention a few.  YM

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Ligety didn't win much at all as a kid...

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"... at some point the question eventually becomes about you and not technique..."

Sigh. So true. And I know you're not advocating fatalism.
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