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Nordica FireArrow EDT84 vs. Dynastar Speed Course TI

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Thread Starter 

I am 6 foot 6, 205 lbs, ski around 40 days per year with my race team, and am looking for some planks that dig trenches in East coast boilerplate (Hunter, Mtn Creek, Sugarloaf, Sugarbush, etc) in a variety of turn shapes.

 

Right now I have a set of Nordica Doberman GS Pro's in 186cm (basically a pure beer league GS plank) as my go-to ice freeski. It rails like there's no tomorrow, but prefers a twenty-something meter turn radius and has a design speed somewhere around Mach 2. It's very good at what it does, but there are times when I'd like to lay down some shorter turns on the hard stuff, play in the bumps, or ski at a safe and reasonable velocity.

 

So far I've been looking to fill this hole in my quiver with Nordica FireArrow EDT 84's (in the longest size, 184cm) or Dynastar Speed Course TI's (also in the longest size, 180-something). 

 

I demoed the narrower FireArrows (FA 80) and fell in love with their playfulness; by all accounts the 84 feels very similar. Both these skis are (very) hard to find as demos, so I never got out on the Dynastars. Can anyone who has skied one or both of these shed some light on their relative merits? Also, I sometimes hear good things about Head Supershapes, but I don't know much about them. 

 

Thanks in advance for all your advice!

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A couple of things first, The FA84 is a completely different animal than the FA80, DIFFERENT SKIS. The 84's shape uses the new blunt tip of their GS skis and the new EVO binding which is different than the older XBS of the 80 with it's zero ramp angle. The Dynastar is 72mm underfoot (compared to the 84 of the Nordica) is a different comparison, much more hard snow specific and a bit less versatile. Do you want a sports car, the Dynastar? or an SUV that handles like a sports car, the FA84? Neither is a bad choice. The FA will be very good on hard snow and the Course Ti will not have the versatility of the FA. 

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Originally Posted by MTpowFiend View Post

I demoed the narrower FireArrows (FA 80) and fell in love with their playfulness

 

Good friend had exactly the same experience on the FA 80. Meanwhile, I've been on the Dynastars. I liked them very much but I'm a LOT smaller than you and they seemed easy going to me for a carver. Combine that with the fact that you already have GS skis, and I'm thinking, why not take a bigger step away from the racy stuff and go with the 80mm ski you know you like? Based on the way my buddy was skiing the Nordica, you won't find it lacking in the arcability department.

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Thread Starter 

Thanks for your input, fellas. As you say, a FA might be the way to go. It's good you pointed out the differences between FA flavors, Philpug. I was totally unaware that the two sets of bindings were set up so differently. 

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Phil nailed it above. The FireArrow 80 is totally different - narrower and much softer than the edt 84 which is loaded with all sorts of carbon top plate gizmos. (could one make a more complicated ski/binding??)

I know a couple people who did not like the edt 84, too stiff, but you're much bigger than them and you race.

 

Looks alone give it away - The edt 84 is the Darth Vader to the Sonny and Cher Fire Arrow 80.

The Dynastar will be more like what you're used to in a gs ski.
 

post #6 of 6
Nothing is comparable between these two. Nordica are 84' also 80 underfoot, Dynastars are 71mm. One is very fast edge to edge, the other slow edge to edge. Believe it or not, 10-14mm makes a huge difference when carving...
For the OP i would say thd Dynastars, based on what he used to ski on.
Just saying.
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