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I recently became the proud owner of a pair of 'still in the wrapper" Volkl WC Racetiger GS skis. Should the bindings be mounted prior to, or after the initial tune? Inquiring minds need to know......Thanks in advance.

 

Karl

post #2 of 10
after - for a really top of the line tune bindings are removed before stonegrind for consistent and accurate material removal.
post #3 of 10

   Yup...having the bindings (and plate) off greatly aids in ski shaping as well....

 

    zenny

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That is how/ without bindings and plates/, Mike de Santis from SKI MD
does all of his skis. And he is top level tuner.
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Originally Posted by orionxprss View Post

I recently became the proud owner of a pair of 'still in the wrapper" Volkl WC Racetiger GS skis. Should the bindings be mounted prior to, or after the initial tune? Inquiring minds need to know......Thanks in advance.

 

Karl

You are tuning them before you ski on them or measure them?  (Still in the wrapper!) did they come unfinished?

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They are unfinished.

 

Karl
 

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They are unfinished.

 

Karl
 

   Are you going to be doing the tuning? Having an unfinished ski is a great opportunity to impart whichever base/side bevel you wish...

 

   zenny

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Thread Starter 

 " Are you going to be doing the tuning? Having an unfinished ski is a great opportunity to impart whichever base/side bevel you wish..."

 

I have a shop about 8 miles from my house with a Montana that does top-notch work. They will stone grind the bases and set the edge angles to my specs. From there I will simply maintain the edges every time I wax. I asked the above question as I have never had a pair of unfinished skis before and wasn't sure if they would prefer to grind the skis with or without the bindings. I thank everyone for their responses.

 

Karl
 

post #9 of 10

I can’t argue with the successful experience of a reputed top level tuner but….. a flat ski (a ski without plate or binding mounted) may have a different shape across the base after the plate and binding has been installed owing to stress exerted by screwing on the plate and binding.  It seems to me that tuning the base flat after any changes imparted by the plate and binding install would be the way to go. It would be similar to tuning a race car’s suspension without taking the weight of the driver into account. It would be a subtle difference but I think it would make a difference. If there is a good reason to tune a ski flat please reveal it.

post #10 of 10

in a perfect world............................where you have access to good machines, good technicians, and real good listeners.............................

 

you would take advantage of the plate not being mounted to evenly shape the the sidewall and top sheet/top edge, then you would have the base stone ground for flatness as well as final pattern installed without the plate installed on the ski. the exception would be if the grind is being done on a machine that is automated ( like a Wintersteiger Discovery or Wintersteiger Race NC ) that can grip the ski off the top skin or in the case of the NC, drive the ski over the stone with the plate on the ski.

 

after sidewall shaping and stone grind, you could then install the plate, so you had something square for your vise to grip as well as give you clearance when setting the base bevel with base guide and a file. the last step ( still easier without binding on the plate ) is to set and finish the the side edge angle and polish.

 

then wax ( again easier with just plate ) so less to clean up on binding and easier clean up of the sidewall/side edge.

 

now mount your binding while the base is protected with wax.

 

last step scrape and brush, then onto snow.

 

jim

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