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Head Raptor 130 vs B3 RD

post #1 of 15
Thread Starter 
I loved my Head Raptor 130s for the first 10-15, but now the liners have been packed a bit, my LV feet are starting to move around a bit inside... A few temporary/permanent fixes I'm thinking:
1. Wear thicker socks - my least preferred. Helps little in terms of filling the void and increasing control
2. Set the buckes at their tightest setting - this means going just one notch up from my current setting. The wide width problem still remains. 97mm last is just not narrow enough for me.
3. Get tighter and harder replacement liners/different footbeds when the time comes. I'm afraid that the liners get packed out after 10-15 days and I end up having the same issue
4. Which leads me to my last most costly option - buy lower volume boots like the B3's...but will the flex be the same like it says on paper? Will the liners get packed out and it goes from snug to loose fit eventually? What will I lose and gain by going from the 130s to the B3s.

Any thoughts would be appreciated. TIA!
post #2 of 15

I'm very familiar with the boots so why don't we start with this, what size does your foot measure in U.S. sizes and what is the width it measures on a Brannock measurer as well and what size boot are you in?

 

Lou

post #3 of 15
Thread Starter 
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Edited by nochaser - 1/19/14 at 7:48pm
post #4 of 15

what size boots are you in? do you have a custom footbed?

 

your foot is an 8.5 length and "a" width weighted. it would shorten a bit depending on what footbed and how it was built.

 

jim

post #5 of 15
Thread Starter 
I have stock 2013 Head Raptor 130s in mondo 26. My boot fitter helped narrow down the size for me.

The boots were snug for first 3-7 days and then became a bit loose afterwards. I tighten up the buckles, but I'm not sure if 97mm last is narrow enough for me as I can move my feet left and right a bit. The sole length is not a big issue but there is a bit of room beyond my longest toes as well. The flex is perfect now in warm spring days, but it was stiff in cold days in Feb.

I'm considering the RS110s in 25.5, but obviously got a lot of homework to do first. The major downside/hassle would be the difference in the BSL... How does the Lange RS 97mm compare with the Head Raptor--do they fit bigger or smaller?

Thank you,
Edited by nochaser - 5/22/13 at 3:51pm
post #6 of 15

both the raptor and the RS would be generous in width and volume for your narrow, low volume foot.

 

if you are looking to be in a softer boot that is lower in volume from the head Raptor 130 or lange RS 110, look into the the head B5 in a 25 shell ( runs short in the toe box, so a 26 may be more appropriate ) or a lange ZA soft in 25/26 shell. both would need a toe extension punch if you went with the 25 shell, but would fit tighter over over the instep/heel hold down area without maxing out the buckles. B5 is a short cuff boot so if you have a long lower leg could be a deal breaker. taking a B3 and cutting the lower shell could get the boot softer by about 10 to 15%.

 

jim

post #7 of 15
Thread Starter 
Thanks Jim. I haven't been to Tahoe yet but next year for sure. I'm gonna have to stop by your shop when I do.

Just a few follow up questions:
1. Is the B3 stiffer than the Raptor 130?
2. Are you recommending 25.5 for the B3?
3. What can be done on my current boots?
post #8 of 15
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Originally Posted by nochaser View Post

Thanks Jim. I haven't been to Tahoe yet but next year for sure. I'm gonna have to stop by your shop when I do.

Just a few follow up questions:
1. Is the B3 stiffer than the Raptor 130?
2. Are you recommending 25.5 for the B3?
3. What can be done on my current boots?

yes, dramatically......however there is some fudge factor by cutting deeper "V" cuts in the lower

 

not without seeing your foot/footbed/and existing boot up close and personal and gaining some understanding about your skiing, your goals and aspirations

 

it depends on the above sentence. need to see your foot/lower leg/footbed/boot/etc.......listen to your story, and make recommendations from there. if you are in the correct shell size there are some reasonable fixes to decrease volume. if you are not in the correct size shell, there is a limit as to what can be achieved without investing in a better matched boot.

 

jim

post #9 of 15

I agree with Jim.  Your foot length borders 25/26 so a good fitter can probably get you into a 25 and width definitely favors a B series.

 

Lou

post #10 of 15
Thread Starter 
What's the BSL for the 26.5 B3? Do you have them in stock?
post #11 of 15

303mm and start haus has them in stock.

 

jim

post #12 of 15

We have them as well but you certainly should deal with Jim on them.  From what I can see the B series boot would be a better way for you to go but the B3 although it is listed as a 130 flex will feel stiffer than a Raptor 130.

 

Lou

post #13 of 15
Thread Starter 
Jim, what's the BSL for the B3 in 25.5? Do I just go to your website and order them?
post #14 of 15

293mm is both the B3 and the RS130.

 

either buy online or call the shop, either method will work.

 

jim

post #15 of 15
Thread Starter 
Head says the boot board angle has been reduced from 6 to 4 degrees across the Raptor line for 2013/2014, giving more room in the instep area allowing more ankle flex.

Now, does that mean there is more room for the heel to move around? If this allows the heel to sit deeper in the pocket, maybe it's an improvement... I think I need to try out the new before settling on the old.
Edited by nochaser - 12/16/13 at 7:27pm
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