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CSIA L4 AND PSIA L3?

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Does anyone know of a Canadian with CSIA L4 and PSIA LIII alpine certifications or vice versa? As a member of both, I am amazed at the lack of interaction between the two despite the close proximity of major ski areas in both countries.
post #2 of 14

There was an effort from the CSIA in about the mid to late 90s to create a "North American Ski Instructors Standard" similiar to ISIA.  However, to do so required the PSIA to agree to a common standard.  The fractional nature of the PSIA however made this extremely difficult if not impossible....hence the idea was abandoned.

post #3 of 14

I'd have to check, but I've met several US examiners that have CSIA cert. This may be the equivalent in reverse (sort of a PSIA 4 with CSIA 3 - but I did not check to see which CSIA level cert they had). Any CSIA 4 should easily pass a PSIA 3 with a little terminology/semantics/pedagogy study.

 

There is a current push to get the certification standards unified across the 9 PSIA divisions. Personally I am very happy about the effort underway, but very unhappy that I am not hopeful for any meaningful success. If you know PSIA history the reasons for the fractional organization make sense. However, the failure to overcome these challenges after 50+ years is embarrassing to me personally. At a high level the need for a "just do it" solution is obvious. The devil is in the details. There are too many fundamentally opposed needs between the divisions to make everyone happy. It has always been a "herding cats" problem.

 

PSIA and CSIA do interact through the Interski mechanism. As much as I'd like to see more interaction, I think working with the US racers is a higher priority and there is nothing stopping me from becoming more involved with CSIA on my own. This kind of action on an individual level needs to happen more frequently in order to prime the pump at an organizational level. Right now, my perception of the percepted differences between the organizations is "interesting but not earth shattering". Until there is mutual recognition of "hey - this is good stuff we need to use", there won't be significant change in this area.

post #4 of 14

I'm no pro, but it really does seem that CSIA alpine has it's act together.

post #5 of 14
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Does anyone know of a Canadian with CSIA L4 and PSIA LIII alpine certifications or vice versa? As a member of both, I am amazed at the lack of interaction between the two despite the close proximity of major ski areas in both countries.

Josh Foster...PSIA rocky mountain examiner. CSIA IV examiner...

post #6 of 14

What is JF's technical background? Was he a racer at some point? Or did he just come up through the ranks of CSIA?

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What is JF's technical background? Was he a racer at some point?

 

Does he look like a racer to you?

 

post #8 of 14
No, he looks like a very accomplished L4 CSIA guy, though I'm sure he can make his way down the gates quite quickly as well! He certainly has a skill set. smile.gif

This one looks kind of racer though:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvvj57oIPIE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DNvvj57oIPIE
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Does he look like a racer to you?

 

Ouch!!! Just asking...

 

Actually, I was asking because his skiing, at least to me, appears to be a cut above the typical CSIA/PSIA top tier instructors. He has a lot of video up on YouTube, and his skiing shows a lot of versatility. And some of his tips would be quite useful to racers, including the one you've chosen to single out.

post #10 of 14
I can't remember ever having seen a vid of a CSIA L4 that wasn't fluid, dynamic, powerful, etc...
post #11 of 14

Maybe, but I've seen some that I've liked better than others.

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Maybe, but I've seen some that I've liked better than others.

Such is skiing.
post #13 of 14

How true.

post #14 of 14

I really like Josh Fosters Youtube ski tips. He has a really positive demanor and I think he would be a blast to ski with and or train with. His videos make me Long for some powder in August:).

I also Like Harald Harb ski videos but am Josh Fosters approach more appealing. When I watch him ski, I feel ike, "that's How I want to ski"!  He makes evertything look effortless and appreciates loading the ski and carving, which I also appreciate. Good stuff!

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