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post #31 of 59
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Originally Posted by Skierish View Post

 

Look, if I own Joe Bob's Hot Dog Shack, and I determine  my employees must all wear hot pink short-shorts (even the fat guys eek.gif), address me as "Your Almighty Awesome Magnificence," and mandate that you cannot work at the neighboring Bobby Earl's Hot Dog Shack, I'm "free" to do just that...as long as I abide by FLSA, ADA, and other non-discriminatory and safety regulations.  As a potential (or actual) Employee, if you don't like those restrictions, you're "free" to work elsewhere...or not at all, if you so choose.  It's a free country, after all.    

True.  And you can fart in the elevator too.

post #32 of 59
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Originally Posted by Skierish View Post

 

Look, if I own Joe Bob's Hot Dog Shack, and I determine  my employees must all wear hot pink short-shorts (even the fat guys eek.gif), address me as "Your Almighty Awesome Magnificence," and mandate that you cannot work at the neighboring Bobby Earl's Hot Dog Shack, I'm "free" to do just that...as long as I abide by FLSA, ADA, and other non-discriminatory and safety regulations.  As a potential (or actual) Employee, if you don't like those restrictions, you're "free" to work elsewhere...or not at all, if you so choose.  It's a free country, after all.    

 

Wash your hands on your own time!!!

 

post #33 of 59
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Originally Posted by JoeSchmoe View Post

 

Its pretty bad that a company wouldn't let some low wage employees to take other jobs. Legal... maybe. Bad... yes. Lots of stuff is legal, but that doesn't necessarily mean its right. You could go through life as a total SOB, but still never break the law.

 

If they are not performing, due to being overworked or having scheduling issues fire them for that... not for trying to put food on the table in a local economy without a lot of jobs.

I agree. A union might help in this situation.

post #34 of 59

While I can understand an employer forbidding moonlighting in general for full time employees and forbidding employees with access to trade secrets from working for competitors, when the terms of employment  forbids working for a specific competitor and there are no trade secrets to protect the intent of the policy seems to be to deprive the competitor of employees, which it seems to me could be construed as restraint of trade and unfair competition. I suppose it might depend on the law in the particular state, or maybe it's federal law, and on the particular facts--such as the available labor pool in the area (particularly since there are a limited number of visas available for ski area workers.)

 

Lots of nurses, especially those who don't work full time at one hospital, work at multiple hospitals.

 

As far as a resort not hiring a musician for a particular gig because he bad mouths them I have no problem with that, although it's stupid. I have even less problem with the musician trying to enlist community support to retaliate financially against the resort if he can.

 

Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer. I play one on the internet.

post #35 of 59
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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

Local musician loses work due to Facebook posts for constructive criticism of the economic impact to residents caused by  Mt Snows new employment policy changes. 

 

Musician loses work due to Facebook posts

 

I have friends that have condos near Mt Snow and ski there about every other year.  This bothers me  A LOT!!!!   Personally I don't like it when large corporations in a rural community  think they can bully an entire community into being submissive to them.  Its their way or the high way.  Sounds to me like Mt Snow may need a management change.  You just don't treat people in your community this way.

 

I really don't see what your complaint is here. They are a private company that can hire (or not) whomever they want. Why would you want to have someone working for you that complains about your resort? "Constuctive" to one is "Bad Publicity" to another.

 

Like many things in life you have options...don't ski there, don't work for them, etc. if you don't like the way they do buisness.

post #36 of 59
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

 

I really don't see what your complaint is here. They are a private company that can hire (or not) whomever they want. Why would you want to have someone working for you that complains about your resort? "Constuctive" to one is "Bad Publicity" to another.

 

Like many things in life you have options...don't ski there, don't work for them, etc. if you don't like the way they do buisness.

You are entitled to your opinion.  You say, "Like many things in life you have options"  That may work in a large metropolitan area.  Most rural ski towns do not have a lot of employment options.  In fact sometimes the options are limited to making most of your money in one season a year which requires working 16 hours a day,  7 days a week,  for 4 months.     I think the musician's facebook page documented the obvious hardships that the new Mt Snow employment policy will have on people in the community trying to make enough money to feed their families.  Most of the folks on this forum have no clue what its like to barely get by to make enough money just to feed your family. 

post #37 of 59
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Originally Posted by catskills View Post

You are entitled to your opinion.  You say, "Like many things in life you have options"  That may work in a large metropolitan area.  Most rural ski towns do not have a lot of employment options.  In fact sometimes the options are limited to making most of your money in one season a year which requires working 16 hours a day,  7 days a week,  for 4 months.     I think the musician's facebook page documented the obvious hardships that the new Mt Snow employment policy will have on people in the community trying to make enough money to feed their families.  Most of the folks on this forum have no clue what its like to barely get by to make enough money just to feed your family. 

 

But no one is making them live in a "rural ski town". That is yet another choice a person can make. There are of course pros and cons to every choice in life.

post #38 of 59
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

 

But no one is making them live in a "rural ski town". That is yet another choice a person can make. There are of course pros and cons to every choice in life.

 

If you were born and raised in a town, raised kids there, have parents you need to look after... got divorced and need to stay close to your kids, you're not leaving town and its not a choice.

 

Again, the resort chose to be the bad guy.  My mother has multiple jobs, and excels at both.  Fire the people if the moonlighting affects the job!!! Just because an employer is legally entitled to do something doesn't make it right!

 

Again- if there is a conflict of interest, trade secrets, etc, by all means the employees should be restricted from taking 2nd jobs.  


Edited by JoeSchmoe - 5/11/13 at 7:44am
post #39 of 59
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Originally Posted by Rossi Smash View Post

 

But no one is making them live in a "rural ski town". That is yet another choice a person can make. There are of course pros and cons to every choice in life.

Not everybody working at a ski area is a 20 year old ski bum looking for good times that can up and leave at the drop of a hat.

post #40 of 59

The question isn't about the wisdom of Mount Snow forbidding their employee to moonlight. That's pretty much concluded to be a bad practice when applied to low wage worker with no access to trade secretes. 

 

The question is about the wisdom of the musician voicing his criticism on facebook!

 

Personally, I think it's foolish of him to do so. It comes off as whining. The proper channel is to voice his "constructive criticism" directly to the management to effect a change that would help the workers and the community. 

 

The root cause of the prohibition was the feud between Mount Snow and Haystack. When two guys were in a fist fight, you do what you think that would stop the fight. But whatever you try, the one thing you don't do is by throwing punches at the one guy you're trying to help as a form of "constructive help"! That's what this musician guy choose to do. So he got a punch directed straight at him! Surprise!!! 

post #41 of 59

I was going to use the Eye-Rolling emoticon here, but its eye roll isn't big enough for some of the hand-wringing in this thread.

If I have my own business, and you are my employee who takes to a highly public forum to smack-talk me and/or a legal policy I've instituted, you're fired!  End of story.

If you are so opposed to my way of doing business, I have a solution for you...You're Fired!  Now you're free to work somewhere else less tyrannical, so rejoice!

 

Public whining on social media (Facebook in this case) is just the modern version of standing outside the business with a bullhorn shouting to passersby how unfair and mean the business is.  Who here would tolerate that from someone who ostensibly works for them?

 

Working conditions that lead to over 1,000 people being crushed to death in dilapidated sweatshops are worthy of outrage.  

Spoiled Americans who aren't permitted to work for a competitor and then publicly trash-talk their employer are not.  

So, I guess I won't be at the "No Justice, No Peace" march for this guy... 

post #42 of 59

POWER

What we really need in North America is a law requiring companies to keep their ratio of full-time to part time employees above a certain level so that poor folk don't need to work three jobs to make a living.   That would, on the surface at least, not be good for the corporation because they would have to pay out more benefits.  Poor folk don't have much political influence, as compared to corporations, so I don't see that law happening anytime soon.

 

It's fascinating to see the disconnect between the rich and powerful, who have the freedom to easily exercise their "options" and think it's a simple matter of "If you don't like it, quit your job, and go work somewhere else."  It's not so easy to find a way to make a living for the less powerful members of our society.

 

I bet there are plenty of "part time" ski area employees that would gladly trade in all their jobs, for one full-time job. 

post #43 of 59
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Originally Posted by Ghost View Post

POWER

 

It's fascinating to see the disconnect between the rich and powerful, who have the freedom to easily exercise their "options" and think it's a simple matter of "If you don't like it, quit your job, and go work somewhere else."  It's not so easy to find a way to make a living for the less powerful members of our society.

It's not as simple as it looks. 

 

A low wage multi-job part-timer may seem to lack the power with each of their employer, but they actually have more power than the same low wage worker working for a single employer. When you boss is a jerk or worse, and it's your ONLY job, you have no escape except to look for another full time job. A part-timer can quit, which means fewer hours till he find another one, instead of completely without income. 

 

The work place has slowly changed to view part time as not a negative but just another way of working. Granted, the benefit issue needs to work its way out to more fairness. 

 

Now, if your work is easily replaceable by anyone else off the street, you lose all your power. But in that case, no amount of employment law will save you in the long term. Sooner or later, you get older and slower, if you haven't accumulated additional experience that are valuable to your boss, you WILL be replaced by someone younger and quicker. But that's not the point of this thread.

post #44 of 59

This whole non-compete agreement stuff is pure grade A horsepoop.  There's a reason why it's not enforceable in many States - it's unconstitutional!  It undermines capitalism; or to put another way, to capitalize on something.  Businesses are not the only things that can capitalize, individuals can do so too.  If I can do better at another company that happens to be a direct competitor than no one or one thing should be able to stop me from capitalizing on that.  I don't see how that's considered being spoiled.  A business would not hesitate to capitalize on a situation that may undermine its competitors to make more money.  It's called competition.  There's no such thing as loyalty anymore.  Just as a person is free to leave if they don't like the policies or the work environment, a business is free to do what it has to keep an employee from leaving for greener pastures, i.e., pay them better, etc.

 

If I'm working for company XYZ and the job is OK, but a spot opens up that pays the same or better at company ABC but is 45 minutes closer to my house allowing me to have a better quality of life and go skiing more often, I'm taking it even if I signed a non-compete and I won't feel one bit bad about it.  On a very basic level, a non-compete restricts freedom of movement.  I'm free to MOVE to another company if it's a better situation for me.

 

Being that businesses aren't offering pensions, 401K matching or anything like that anymore, who's spoiled?  The companies or the workers?

 

This has nothing to do with the Mt. Snow issue just wanted to add my 2 cents on the whole non-compete agreement.

post #45 of 59
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Originally Posted by hespeler View Post

This whole non-compete agreement stuff is pure grade A horsepoop.  There's a reason why it's not enforceable in many States - it's unconstitutional!  

 

If you think it's "horsepoop," that's cool...but it's not unconstitutional.  

Saying it is is factually incorrect.

post #46 of 59
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Originally Posted by Skierish View Post

I was going to use the Eye-Rolling emoticon here, but its eye roll isn't big enough for some of the hand-wringing in this thread.

If I have my own business, and you are my employee who takes to a highly public forum to smack-talk me and/or a legal policy I've instituted, you're fired!  End of story.

If you are so opposed to my way of doing business, I have a solution for you...You're Fired!  Now you're free to work somewhere else less tyrannical, so rejoice!

 

I don't think the point of the article was this guy whining about getting fired... he said he had other options and would get by.  He was standing up for those with mortgages and car payments and could not make a decent wage without multiple jobs.

 

One of my best friends is a investment banker and card-carrying member of the 1% club. He spends a lot of time looking at the economy as a whole, and he STRONGLY believes that the pro-big business / anti-middle class attitude that has gotten stronger year over year is what is dragging down the economy.  Big business is taking too much, and not giving back.  For all the manufacturing that has moved overseas, the savings has not been passed on to the North American consumer.  Most consumer products of EQUAL quality still cost the same today as they did 30 years ago (inflation adjusted).  The savings has gone into corporate pockets, and that money hasn't trickled down the way Reagan said it would... hence our stale economy.

 

Mount Snow is just another example.  As was previously stated, soon they will likely be importing labour to replace everyone they've effective shut out as there won't be enough people in the local talent pool to keep operations running.  That ABSOLUTELY is a loss for the good ol' USA.

 

Hat's off to the musician for sticking up for the little guy!

post #47 of 59

It's striking but not shocking to me how many people on this forum are totally oblivious to how marginal existence is for working people in this country.  No, it's not Bangladesh, but it's getting closer. Ask the families of the coal miners killed a couple of years ago in West Virginia in the Upper Big Branch mine disaster. (But don't ask the people of West, Texas--they're Texans and apparently they like it that way.)

post #48 of 59
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

No, it's not Bangladesh, but it's getting closer. 

 

Oh Please!  rolleyes.gif

 

What's striking to me is how little perspective people in the west actually have.  What's an outrageous injustice here is a perplexing joke in most third-world countries.  Actually, the working class in Bangladesh wouldn't consider it a joke...they wouldn't be able to even comprehend this debate.

 

I'm as middle-class as it gets.  I'm a retired Civil Servant on a modest fixed income paying for my own private health insurance.  That said, I'm better off than the vast, vast majority of people in the rest of the world by quite a long shot and better off than my working ancestors and all those who came before them.  The fact is that the more entitlements people receive, the more they feel entitled...it's human nature, I guess.

 

When I left my career, the biggest outrage among my fellow employees at my workplace was the fact that tardiness rules were going to be more strictly enforced.  People would be allowed to be late for work 6 times in 6 months (without a valid excuse) before a written warning would be placed in their personnel jacket.  The expectation that these poor, abused working stiffs show up to work (mostly) on time was just too much!  Job actions were threatened, demands to speak to the head of the organization were made, sick-outs occurred...the injustice of it all was just so appalling, and dictatorial...and outrageous!!!

 

Yeah, work perks may not be what they were 10 years ago, but American workers are still pretty damn spoiled...definitely more so than anywhere else in the non-western world.

 

LET THEM EAT CAKE!  ...and pie...and meat...and veggies...and candy bars...and take-out...and 6,000 varieties of breakfast cereal...and so on and so on.........

post #49 of 59
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Originally Posted by Skierish View Post

 

 

Yeah, work perks may not be what they were 10 years ago, but American workers are still pretty damn spoiled...definitely more so than anywhere else in the non-western world.

 

Its getting worse every year.  You're retired from the workforce, and started in an era of a healthy middle-class... In today's North America, if you're born in the bottom 25% of intellect or privilege- you are going to struggle right through to retirement.  Either you won't be smart enough to work for much more than minimum wage, or you'll be strangled with student loans for so long that you'll never see the fruits of your hard work.

 

As a society, we should be pushing for better and better for everyone all the time. Not "work perks may not be what they were 10 years ago"... but just be lucky to have a job... you could be in Bangladesh... etc

post #50 of 59

Most of the things gained by unions decades ago are in great jeopardy or already gone.  Most people coming out of high school today, and even some college grads need more than one job to earn enough money to be self sufficient.  And, in spite of how much tougher things are here there are still hundreds of thousands of people swimming across rivers, climbing fences, and negotiating hundreds of desert miles just to try and find one of those mediocre jobs available here.

 

There are many things at play here reducing the availability of decent jobs here.  Technology and data management programs have made it possible for a hand full of people to run systems and organizations that used to require thousands and thousands of people pushing paperwork around the country and world.  Globalization has allowed production to keep moving to the areas with the lowest costs.  When you set up shop where a loaf of bread costs pennies and rent costs a few dollars you only have to pay manual laborers pennies.  No EPA, OSHA, or other pesky regulations either. 

 

Finally, internet connectivity even enables highly skilled and technical work to also take place in those regions where the cost of living is lowest, where people will work for the lowest wage.

 

So, that doesn't leave much opportunity outside of the few retail, equipment maintenance on machines and cars that are much more reliable and disposable/replaceable, and transportation/shipping.  The rest is resorts sucking up to people that are lucky enough have enough capital to live well on.  Those folks aren't very nice to work for if you can't suck up to them like they want you to..


Edited by crgildart - 5/11/13 at 6:03pm
post #51 of 59

After School All Stars is running a program to feed 9000 students in homeless families.  Something is well and truly f'd up.

 

CENTRAL FLORIDA —

Central Florida students will soon be on summer break, but for 9,000 homeless students that time off means they won't get a meal at school.

9 Family Connection reports on what's being done to make sure kids don't go hungry.

Ashley Castillo will be 14 in two weeks.

She's already become a voice for thousands of kids in central Florida who are homeless, hungry and feel alone.

"(During) the week I would go to school and have food, but on the weekend I couldn't find anything to really keep me full," Castillo said. "I felt kind of embarrassed."

Friday, she told a room of strangers about her deaf parents' health, about not eating in order to share food with her siblings and how the "Summer of Dreams" program through Fifth-Third Bank saved her.

"Every day, I had a safe place to go," Castillo said.

This is the third year up to 1,500 homeless children like Castillo in Orange, Seminole, and Osceola counties will get two meals a day and activities Monday through Friday for free over the summer.

Second Harvest steps up on the weekend by taking food from shelves and putting it into bags, enough to get the kids through two days.

The "Summer of Dreams" camp partners with programs like "Orlando After School All-Stars" and Boys and Girls Club of Central Florida to find kids like Castillo.

"That's our goal, really, is to take care of the most at-risk kids when they're most in need," said Tyler Chandler, executive director of After School All-Stars.

It costs $186 to sponsor all the meals for one child.

Castillo said the donations aren't just feeding her, they make her want to give others hope too.

"I want to be a child therapist and help mentor kids," Castillo said.

Find out about sponsoring a child for the summer at wftv.com/weblinks.


Edited by veteran - 5/11/13 at 5:58pm
post #52 of 59
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Originally Posted by crgildart View Post

Most of the things gained by unions decades ago are in great jeopardy or already gone. 

The miners in WV, the auto workers at Ford's paid with their blood for what American workers have taken for granted and are now losing.  "Your job could be shipped to Bangladesh, you should consider yourself lucky to have what you have" is what the bosses say to intimidate the workers. The measure of an equitable society is in reverse proportion to the size of the gap between the rich and the poor, and in direct proportion to how many folks are clustered near the middle.  By that measure we are closer to Bangladesh than we think--richer overall, but not much more equitable.  

post #53 of 59
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By that measure we are closer to Bangladesh than we think--richer overall, but not much more equitable.  

 

Wow.

I wonder what the average working poor Bangladeshi would think of that statement.

post #54 of 59
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Originally Posted by oldgoat View Post

By that measure we are closer to Bangladesh than we think--richer overall, but not much more equitable.  

 

Wow.

I wonder what the average working poor Bangladeshi would think of that statement.

 

This is the classic multi-millionare CEO raking in a fat salary at 100 or more times the worker's salary pointing his finger at the hoards of unemployed clambering outside the factory gates and then wagging it at the workers while saying, "Thank your lucky stars you have your job; you could be like them."


Since you are using the Bangladeshi working poor as a measuring stick, I suggest that some of us in North America have a higher standard to adhere to, and are not content with allowing the standard of living for the working class to descend to poverty levels, just so long as there are worse off folk in other parts of the world.

 

Your world view appears to be that of a man who has had a nice cushy FULL TIME government job, complete with PENSION and working conditions that allowed you to show up late for work and still get paid.   That is not the view from the window of many of today's working poor.  You obviously have no idea how hard times are for many people.  You cover your ignorance of how bad things are for the economically challenged by pointing out how worse they are in another country.   This is not another country, this is my country, my ancestors worked hard to make it what it is, and I am not content to throw away what they have worked for.

 

Things have changed.  It is not as easy to quit your job in the morning and have another full time job in the afternoon.  No longer can the AVERAGE or Median wage earner make enough to feed a family buy a car and have a pet dog.  It takes two people with good paying jobs to attain the same standard of living that used to be within reach of any high-school educated young man 40 years ago.

post #55 of 59
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That is not the view from the window of many of today's working poor.  You obviously have no idea how hard times are for many people.  

 

Dude, you sooo have no F***ing conception about what what I have any idea about when it comes to hard times....Trust me on that one!  

I'll return the favor by not condescendingly explaining to you what your own life experiences have or have not been.

 

I also wasn't the one who suggested that equity between the rich and poor in America was anywhere close to that of Bangladesh...or any other dirt-poor third world country.  As far as showing up late for work is concerned, I was complaining about the mindset that believes that such behavior is a job "right," I wasn't bragging about it!

 

Oh, and my "cushy" gov't job left me with several permanent scars, some mild disability, and a few dead and maimed friends...but guess what, compared to what most people in most of the rest of the world have to endure in order to survive, you're right...it was cushy.  When I say American/Western workers are spoiled, I DO include myself.  By all means, feel free to consider me a Dick-Extrodonaire, but I'm not a hypocrite.

 

BTW, I meant to concede to Joe Schmoe above that he had a fair point (I got side-tracked by Old Goat) about how society needs to strive for better.  That's right, but it doesn't mean that we completely forget a general state of workplace affairs that is still among the best around and certainly better than at any time in the past.  We're not feudal Japan...or anywhere close to it!

 

I've protested what I feel are legitimate working grievances in my life (on a picket line in one case) but the musician that was the original subject of this thread just doesn't strike me as worthy of much (any) outrage.  He was told he couldn't work for one direct competitor of his employer, and he then decided to publicly smack-talk his employer on a very public forum.  Had one of my employees done the same to me, I'd have fired his ass also...and not lost a second's sleep over it.  Decisions have consequences, and in the grand scheme of the rest of the problems in the world...or Hell, even just the problems in my own local community...I just can't muster up a single tear for him.  

We're obviously not going to agree, Ghost, so maybe we should just leave it at that...

post #56 of 59

Glad you agree with me on it not being feudal Japan.

 

It's not about the musician; it's about the part timer holding down three jobs in a tough economy with low job market prospects to make ends meet being told he has to quit one of them if he doesn't want to get fired.  Since we are trading favours, I'll not guess whether or not you think that's right.  I think that's just wrong.

post #57 of 59
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Originally Posted by Skierish View Post

 

If you think it's "horsepoop," that's cool...but it's not unconstitutional.  

Saying it is is factually incorrect.

I interpret it as unconstitutional.  I know that means horsepoop.  In any event, it is not sufficient enough to be regarded as actionable by the courts in some States.  Lacking a sufficient legal standard I suppose is more accurate.  

 

Career civil-servant here as well.  Hope you're enjoying your retirement and are skiing as much as you can.

post #58 of 59

just buy the resort and put the old execs on a minimum wage. biggrin.gif

 

 

 

 

FRISCO — Along with a slew of other ski resort villages, Copper Mountain‘s commercial base-area properties (the Village at Copper) may be for sale as part of a “trophy resort village portfolio,” offered  for $142.5 million.

According to an online brochure making the rounds, the resort villages can also be bought separately, starting at about $9 million for the smallest and ranging up to about $30 million. The real estate investment services company Marcus & Millichap is offering the properties, which are owned by CNL Lifestyle Properties, Inc..

The Florida-based real estate investment trust (REIT) that became a big player in the mountain resort business when it bought properties all over North America about the time the resort real estate boom fizzled.

According to the Denver Post, the company has interests in 16 ski resorts and seven ski-area villages, as well as golf courses, resorts, theme parks, marinas and senior housing properties worth more than $3.3 billion.

The properties for sale are:

  • Village at Stratton
  • Village at Mammoth Mountain
  • Village at Snowshoe Mountain
  • Village at Baytowne Wharf
  • Blue Mountain Village
  • Whistler Creekside

In some cases, CNL owns entire resorts and leases them to operating companies. In other areas, for example at Copper Mountain, the company owns commercial base area properties which are leased to operators. CNL also takes a percentage of the gross revenue from the operations in addition to lease payments.

The CNL Lifestyle REIT expires in 2015. By then, the company will sell all its lifestyle properties, which is one reason the resort villages are being offered on the market.

CNL may also see the strengthening economy as an opportunity to make some money on properties that it purchased at a good price during the recession, said Jerry Jones, a long-time Vail-area resort broker. Jones said the REIT is basically funded by outside investors who are promised a better return than from a bank.

post #59 of 59

["Glad you agree with me on it not being feudal Japan"].

 

In communist china, there's a 30% bonus  if the employer wants a non compete clause to stop the employee saving his pennies and one day buying a store, building it up, being a successful entrepreneur. even the commies recognise that non-competes aren't good

 

 

On Jan. 18, 2013, the Supreme People’s Court of China promulgated Judicial Interpretation IV on Several Issues Concerning the Application of Law in Hearing Labor Dispute (the “Interpretation”). The Interpretation went into effect Feb. 1, 2013

 

Non-Compete (Articles 6 to 10 of the Interpretation)
Compensation for Non-Compete Covenant:

  • If a non-compete covenant is agreed upon, but compensation is not mentioned in the labor contract or confidentiality agreement, and the employee has fulfilled the non-compete covenant, the court can award up to 30 percent of the employee’s salary; and
  • If the above-mentioned 30 percent of the average monthly salary is lower than the minimum salary standard in the city, the latter shall be paid instead.
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