I bought a 2011 Stockli Rotor 84 this past season, made 4 runs on them and broke them. Stockli replaced them with a new pair of 2013 Rotor 84's. I bought this ski as a beginning of the year ski for man made snow, multiple freeze, thaw cycle type stuff we get here in NE. The dimensions are 166cm 110-84-110. Will this ski be any good for this purpose? Thanks
2013 Stockli Rotor 84
Thanks for the reply, beyond. Just out of curiousity whats this thing gonna carve like? Speed limit? I've got a dynastar 4x4. I love this ski's ability, just makes you giggle coming out of the turn. Problem is, weight, knees hurt by the end of the day. I've also got a 2011 Watea 84. I'm looking to split the difference between weight, and carvability. Is the rotor 84 a possible contender for this? I realize its a park pipe ski but with the consturction and dimensions I thought I might have stumbled onto something? Or just wishful thinking? Thanks
It carves very nicely, smoother and more planted at speed than the Watea 84. Like any park oriented twin, has moderate flex tips and tails, relative to the mid-body, so touch vague in tips and tails sometimes going from edge to edge.
But this is still a Stockli, with two layers of metal, so not a noodle. Middleweight, heavier than the Watea, lighter than say a Kendo or Rossignol 82 something. Have only skied the Contact Ltd, not the 4x4, but have a hunch the Rotor is lighter even at 9 mm more width. Heard the 4x4's were battleships.
IME, the Rotor's were best in bumps or irregular terrain like trees with some light fresh over hard substrate. Just sooo easy. Their major weakness for me was that the tips felt a bit loose at decent speed. No drama, but not the freight train stability of other Stocklis. Or for that matter, the 4x4's.
If your knees hurt by the end of the day, also might think about your technique; letting the terrain unweight you, trying to change angles of attack in bumps. A plate also helps knees.
I think the knee thing is the actual weight of the ski, coupled by the fact that this is my beginning of the year ski, and nothing seems to hit the lower body joints quite like the first few ski days. Also,The 4x4's weigh just under 17lbs. Switch to my other skis, problem solved. But the Watea's handle ice poorly. Hense my hopefulness to split the difference from the 4x4 and the Watea. But now that you mentions trees I'm curious, with the lack of rocker do you think the rotor 84 is as good in the glades, bumps as a BMX 88 or Bushwacker?
Well, a MX88 does not have rocker, has a fairly beefy rear, and IMO trees are its weakest arena. So I'd pick the Rotor any day in that match up. The Bushwacker is really nice in trees and bumps, different feel than the Rotor, more of a throw-it-around, correct on the move ski. Rotor is smooth and fluid. I'd pick the Rotor for bumps because of the flex pattern and tail, the Bushwacker for soft snow in the trees because of the rocker. But close call.
Which leaves groomers, where the Rotor has a small advantage over the Bushwacker, a clear disadvantage over the 88's. Summary: I'd buy the Rotors if I wanted a park/bump/tree ski that can handle hard groomers. But not if I wanted a groomer ski that can handle bumps and trees.