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Rossi 120 demo bindings. Toe and Heel both adjust or only heel? Use for changing center point?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 

So with the Rossi Axium 120 demo bindings (I just ordered a demo pair of Soul 7's with these on ebay) can I only adjust the heel piece or can I adjust both toe and heel pieces?

 

If the latter would that be an acceptable way to play with moving my center point fore and aft to see what feels best?

post #2 of 14

You should be able to adjust both the toe and the heels separate. My suggestion is to take these demo bindings off ASAP and install a good solid retail binding. The PX demos are heavy and inefficient due to all the adjustment capability of the system. 

post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 

Thanks Phil.  I would prefer Griffons on them, but part of the decision to buy was getting the skis with bindings for $550 including shipping, much less than I could get skis and bindings on a pro deal in the fall, if pro deals are even available on these skis.

 

If I did that, do the demo bindings have any resale value?

post #4 of 14

The main demand for demo bindings is in the demo and rental fleet markets.  Most of those buyers want to start with new gear so it can be properly depreciated and valued for tax purposes and end of season resale.  If you replace them your skis will likely have a lot of new holes added.  No big deal if they have plates on them though.  If not, I'd keep the demos and just be sure to check the forward pressure and other adjustments a little more often than you would with regular bindings.

post #5 of 14

The demo unit is heavier than the retail binding, yes the toe and heel move independently of each other but in steps not infinite adjustment. The toe moves in five larger steps, the heel much smaller steps.

 

If you have friends you want to share skis with they are great. I personally like the Marker demo binding best, the toe and heel are have screw adjustments so you can move them where you want them to get the boot center on the mark or forward or backward. The Marker unit is lighter also. I have skis with both Look and Marker demo bindings so I have used both personally.

post #6 of 14
Thread Starter 

How do you feel about Philpugs comment about getting rid of them?  I don't plan on a lot of sharing with others, but I like the price.  I demo'd these skis and thus the day I decided that I really liked them was a day skiing them with demo bindings after all.

post #7 of 14

IMO it's mostly about how you react to a bit of extra weight - would guess maybe 6-8 oz - vs. the ability to adjust your mount and have a touch more leverage edge to edge. These days most demo mounts are fairly solid, IME, although I haven't done the PX's, and I don't think the extra holes are gonna hurt the ski, although they will prolly be far enough beyond the new toe and heel pieces to show, so cosmetic live-with. 

 

Full discloser: I like plates on any skis that will see a groomer...

post #8 of 14

Remember - Axium = Look NX, Axial = Look PX. Many of Rossi's front side carvers come with the TPI2 which is essentially an Axium demo or Look NX Fluid. Not a bad binding if you are ok with the axium vs axial heel. As mentioned, the toe and heel do not have equal increments so setting up the boot at a different location doesn't always work well with the forward pressure being the issue.  

post #9 of 14
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I demo'd these skis and thus the day I decided that I really liked them was a day skiing them with demo bindings after all.

 

There you have it. Don't fix it until you're sure it's broke - just go have fun on yer new skis.

post #10 of 14
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Originally Posted by SUV Steve View Post

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Originally Posted by SkiMangoJazz View Post

I demo'd these skis and thus the day I decided that I really liked them was a day skiing them with demo bindings after all.

 

There you have it. Don't fix it until you're sure it's broke - just go have fun on yer new skis.

 

Ding, ding, ding!  We have a winner.

 

Thanks everyone, I will keep them as is and hope that I can move the center point forward and aft to play around with that.  If I find a large performance advantage to one way and the bindings don't really adjust properly for that position I could always consider putting new bindings on then.  Maybe AT bindings!  

post #11 of 14

Make sure you know how to set and check forward pressure.  With Marker demo's--the only demos I have worked with--you can't rely on the BSL markings to set the length/forward pressure. The correct setting may be a click or two in either direction.  I don't know if that applies to the Rossi Axium--make sure you do. 

post #12 of 14
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I know how to do it on railflex and flat bindings, but will definitely need to figure it out on the Rossis.  I've found technical manuals online so should be OK.  I'll have the bindings checked too - something I know I should do, but have never done yet.

post #13 of 14

how heavy are the demo bindings

post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 

I sold those skis and bought a new pair and put Marker Griffons on.

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