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Skiers edge S4 - good for lightweights and juniors?

post #1 of 11
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Someone local is selling a S4 with the mogul master/powder and black diamond platforms. I just had ACL/LCL/meniscus surgery and I'm wondering if this would be a useful rehab tool. I'm about 112 and my daughters are even smaller, so I'm wondering if the s4 would be adjustable enough or too challenging. Any thoughts?
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A Skiers Edge is helpful for knee rehab in my opinion.  I lucked out and got a Skiers Edge II for a great price last summer from the original owner.  Basic model, but more than enough to be useful.  I think it's comparable to the current LT Carver, which is designed for juniors and skiers under 150 up through intermediates.

 

As for an S4, I wonder if it was made in different shapes.  If so, then it depends on which one you are looking at.  The current T5 comes in Classic, Big Mountain, World Cup.  Look at the Skiers Edge website to see the difference in max height in the middle.

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Marznc,

You're such a bad influence on me--started checking out craigslist for one. Do you recommend the balance bar? I wish they had these in gyms!

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The S4 is very similar (probably same) to the T5 Classic. The QS5 series is functionally same as the T5 except they are quieter. The LT carver appears to be a shorter chassis model. The taller Big Mountain and World Cup models within both the T5 and the QS5 series are suppose to allow the skier to develop more explosive power. IMHO the lower classic units should be easier on the knees.  

 

I compared my S4 to the new T5 Classic and they appear to be the same unit with the exception of the model label in the front of the machine. My S4 is set up with the powder/mogul master (P/MM) platform and the balance bar. The P/MM platform allows us to work on simultaneous leg retraction. Simultaneous leg retraction is a great move for bumps & trees. If the timing and motion are not correct, the platform will not move.

 

The balance bar is a great accessory – keep you from falling off the machine until you get use to it. Also my whole family uses the machine and we are all different height = several sets of poles or one balance bar. That said we usually do our work out without holding on the bar – does wonders for your balance. I learn that after seeing my son cranking on the machine when he was 9 and about #70. He was too short to reach the balance bar properly. As I said before, it’s all in the timing and motion.       

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Originally Posted by rx2ski View Post

Marznc,

You're such a bad influence on me--started checking out craigslist for one. Do you recommend the balance bar? I wish they had these in gyms!

Had I been looking deliberately for a Skiers Edge, I probably would've looked for a used one with a balance bar.  I was looking at craigslist for something unrelated to skiing when I happened to notice the SE II.  Not exactly common in North Carolina.  I had my sixth grader try it when we went to check it out.

 

Really didn't have any problem using the SE II without a balance bar.  I was not pushing hard last fall.  After skiing hard in in Feb-Apr, I don't miss having a bar at all.

 

This video helped me understand how to get started.

 

post #6 of 11
Thread Starter 

This one has the balance bar and poles, the basic platform and the mogul/powder platform, plus the black diamond platform.  It says it's lightly used and looks like it.  They are asking $800, does that sound high or a decent deal? I have a stairmaster and exercise bike, and I'm pretty good about using home exercise equipment, but it does take up space. 
 

post #7 of 11
1) With the balance bar the kids can use it. I found my kids needed to weigh 75-80 lbs to use it, but we just have the poles and no balance bar.
2). It should be excellent for rehab. Heck, NFL teams use it for rehab as do ski teams from around the world.
3). I only called the company on one occasion, and they were very helpful. Consider asking them what exercises others use to rehab an injury similar to yours. I would trust the company before a YouTube video.
post #8 of 11

as a physical therapist and skier i can tell you that this is a fantastic device for rehab and ski fitness. you don't need a balance bar ,just use ski poles.
 

post #9 of 11

Skier's Edge does have their own youtube channel:

 

http://www.youtube.com/user/TheSkiersEdgeCompany/videos

 

And you can even see Ryan Seacrest try it out! :)

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Here is a video of some kids using it: 

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Here is a video of some kids using it: 

 

Useful.  A few boys and a girl, all very good racers.  Youngest is only 39 pounds.

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