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Fixing A Lifting Heel Without Screwing Up An Otherwise Great Fit

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So, back in ski country this season and I sprung for some new boots.


I used to be a pretty hard charging skier and have always been a big guy (6'2", 325lbs) as well. Over the last 8 years, I've lived mostly away from ski country and for most of that time, I've rented boots because the math just didn't make sense (I was averaging less than 1-2 ski days a season). I know they haven't been good, but I didn't want to invest in a good boot without time to work out its issues because...


...my last "real" boot was a San Marco TR2 with the silicone injected liner. From an on-mountain standpoint, the boot rocked. Great control, solid, etc. That said, the thing was easily the most painful thing I've ever put on my foot. My feet hurt when I was skiing and I wanted to cut them off when I was on the lift. I can't help but believe they played a major role in decreasing my ski days to the point where I didn't care whether there was local skiing.


Fast forward to today. I found a good local bootfitter (Larry's in Boulder, CO) and put myself in their hands. They took a look at my feet and asked me probing questions about my skiing. Net/net is that I have a fairly long foot (sz 13 in street shoes), with a wide forefoot, a high instep, a thick calf and a narrow heel. I ski steeps and fast groomers, but tend to avoid moguls (grew up skiing in SoCal where the moguls are usually hard and icy). Oh, and I'm 44 now.


They put me in a 2013 Salomon Impact 120 CS (29.5 shell) with a SuperFeet footbed.


First couple of days I skied them, I had a lot of toe pain, so I went back and they opened up the toe box a little. Since then, they've been a dream except for one thing. When I'm in the steeps and/or going really fast (i.e. pressuring my tips), I'm getting a noticeable amount of heel lift. I've tried cranking down my buckles a little more, but that doesn't really help very much, while making the boots less comfortable.


Clearly, I'm going to go see what Larry has to say, but I wanted to know if anyone else has seen this sort of issue and, if so, what are some common solutions? I don't want to mess with what is, otherwise, a magical fit, but I don't want to have that heel pocket looseness effect my skiing either.


Any bright ideas?



Mallthus in Colorado


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Hi Mallthus,


first: the 2 lower buckles(on top of your foot) on a ski boot will only put your feet to sleep if tightened---The top buckle can cut off circulation in your calf muscle if tightened too much.


Second: The ankle buckle (second from top) is the only one which has any hope of holding your heel in the back of the shell, my suggestion is to tighten it until it hurts your ankle, then back off with the micro adjuster until it just becomes comfortable.  Your may have to move the buckle ladder (by removing the "T" nut and bolt and putting it in another hole) to get to the point where you can over tighten it.


Third: read the below article and perform the shell fit check to see if the boot has a prayer of working out in the long term.





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Thread Starter 

Thanks Mike!


I'm going up to A-Basin later this week and will try powering down the ankle buckle. The physics and geometry make sense (to me) that that ought to work.


I have already managed to overtighten the power strap with your described results. :-o


Since the shell is already two sizes smaller than my street shoe, I'm not concerned that it's too large.


Thanks again!

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