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What size Dynastar Course TI should I get? Should I choose a different ski instead?

post #1 of 9
Thread Starter 
Hi all. What size 2013 Dynastar Course TI's should I purchase? They come in 165, 171 or 177. I am a 46 year old male, 5' 11" and weigh 280 lbs. Now I primarily ski in New Jersey with an occasional trip to Killington, Vermnont. I cruise with my 6 year old who has been in our local mountain (Hidden Valley's) per-race program for 2 years. More shorter radius turns than long due to the limited terrain I often ski. No bumps yet but maybe down the road. I was thinking 171 for shorter radius turns but I am afraid that I might be too heavy for that size.

I grew up skiing the east coast and stopped skiing in the mid 90s. I picked it back up again 2 years ago to ski with my children who are now 6 and 4. I guess I have an older technique and picked up a used pair of 165 Sidecut Pilot's at a ski swap, 108-65-98 with a 14 radius that are not bad and seems suited to my style of skiing. Last season I demoed Salomon BBRs which were ok but disappointing, Fisher Progessor 900s which were pretty good and Kastle MX88s which chattered way too much

I was thinking I need a frontside carving or de-tuned racer for my weight, size and technique. I want to get something for next season and will not have the opportunity to demo anything else. Based on some research I was looking at: Atomic Redster Marcel Hirscher Race Skis 2013; Kästle RX 12; Ski Logik Front Burner; Dynastar Speed Course Ti; Kastle MX 78; K2 Rictor or one of the Head iSupershapes with a narrower waist.

I think the Dynastar Course TI might be best but at which length. I know they are being discontinued so I could probably get a good deal. Please give me your thoughts on if you think this is the right ski and what length is appropriate. I would also appreciate input on binding choice and first tuning suggestions for my local shop as I will probably need to purchase these skis from the Internet.

post #2 of 9
The course ti is a great ski, but not sure why you're zeroing in on that one. I would wait and see what others suggest for models. Something a bit wider and more general purpose, probably. Don't buy a ski to fit your technique if your technique is dated. Update your technique to take advantage of the great skis that are out there.

If you do go for the dynastar, 177, for sure. I am 5'7" 135lbs and was comfy on the 171. I'd also say avoid real race skis like the atomic sl you mentioned. You want to drive, not be driven.
post #3 of 9
Thread Starter 
I know. Very confusing. That's why I was also looking at sks at or near 80 like from Ski Logik or one of the Head iSuperhapes.
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First of all welcome to Epic.


 I'm  going to make some assumptions here that should help,  You skied primarily straight skis likely SL's or GS in the 200 range, up until you stopped.  I am a little older, same ht (about 110lbs lighter) and skied straights up until last year and and bought a 176 Dynastar Speed Course WC  FIS 23m ski (would have likely bought the longer length 27m had it been available), but for the price who cares. I also ski locally form 300ft to about 800ft verticals.  Gotta ski what you've got.  That said, the ski is simply amazing.


The Ti version is geared to be a compromise ski slightly detuned (not edges just construction and shape) with a slightly shorter turning radius about 17m I believe, which gives you the best of both worlds.


I would suspect the longer length with you wt would be good and you will love the ski. 


As to bindings without knowing your DIN settings PX14 or Pivot 14 at the bottom end, PX18 or Pivot 18 or equivalent Look, Dynastar or Rossi versions (PX is geared more to this ski).  I'm skiing PX15 because of choice and I'm at the very bottom of the PX18 in DIN setting.


Now with your comment about older technique....Learn the new one, it will make a difference.  It took me about 16 dedicated hours (self taught) and all I can say is wow.  I would suggest an instructor that specializes in transition instruction as he will help you greatly with the timing and slight changes in body positions.  BTW I have skied with a few friends that are instructors and they say that I'm spot on on what I'm doing except that the old school still shows (sort of like an accent in language it never goes away) biggrin.gif.  If they chatter its you and not the the ski, as you do have to dive in a bit more than regular skis (stiffer).


As to bumps, well, don't worry about it at this stage, minor moguls are not a problem, serious moguls might be.  This ski will do SL if really pushed and rip ice with ease when requested.  Compared to your Pilots you will find them stiffer and less forgiving initially, but once you adjust there will be no going back.


Remember what you were skiing and realize that the Ti will be close to the old with all of the benefits of the new.



Good Luck

post #5 of 9
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply. I was skiing Atomic SLs in a 203 back when I was about 210 lbs. Wow time flies.
post #6 of 9

I still have a set of Blue Atomic ARC SL in 200 and Blizzard Thermo Firebird RS in 203 and Blizzard Therm RS in 205's (the last was my daily skier until Jan 2012).  All three are still in great condition.


So I think you'll do ok with the longer length and you'll love the Dynastar.  

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I think the dynastar ti is a good choice based on your info. Definetly don't go shorter than 177, and I would suggest the 183 length. Depends on your skill level. I am an expert skier, 6'4" and 250 lbs. I would buy the 183 length for me. I ski on 178 to 193 cm modern skis and find I like the longer skis much better. Most skis in the 170's I can overpower really easily and they don't hold the edge for me. I like the turn shape and edge grip of a longer ski. If you are used to longer straight skis, I think you will feel the same way.


If your skill is more intermediate to advanced, the 177 would be a good choice. If you are essentially expert, the 183 would be the best for your weight.

post #8 of 9

Speed course is my main ski and I absolutely love it. I have the version without titanium, which now goes under the speed cross name and for east coast skiing, it absolutely rips.

I have demoed the ti version and will be buying one over the summer for next year if I can find one on sale!.  I ski medium sized moguls without issue on these and on ice these things track like a hockey skate. I am 200lbs and comfortably ski the 177cm. They are damp, comfy and dependable. Where are you getting yours? I cannot believe they are no longer in production! I will keep any new ones I can find until my current ones go dead. they are that good.

If you want something a tad wider, the fischer progressor 900 is a good hard pack ski as well, that I enjoyed this year as well. good luck with your quest.

post #9 of 9

The Course TI is an amazing ski and my daily driver for groomers.  I'm 5'10" 170lbs and ski on the 172 (mine are a couple of years old),  I've yet to find an upper speed limit on them - which is to say I wimp out before the skis become unstable.


I learned to ski in the late 90s and never could get the old "straight" skis to work for me, so my technique is probably different than yours. I hate to talk anyone out of a great ski like the TI, but I'd caution against buying them without trying them first. Especially since you say you have something of an old-school technique.


The reason is that the TI's just want to carve.  If you are used to sliding your skis around, you may be in for a rude awakening as the edges just don't want to let go - you have to actively work to make these skis slide sideways.  It's just the opposite of most skis where you have to coax them into holding an edge and railing a turn.


I'd probably steer you towards something more slidy and less carvy, for instance the new Outland series.  Unless you really want to make a radical change to your skiing style, in which case these skis would make you do that.


As for length, it's probably more a matter of how short a radius you want than anything else.  My ski partner is about 250lbs and his groomer skis are 163cm.  Modern materials mean that you don't have to go long to gain stability or to get rid of chatter.

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