Originally Posted by beyond
Can't speak to the graphic, don't know why the first ski has a binding and the second does not, nor does it seem to have the I-Box. Went to a Rossi tech manual (page 18 below) to find out about the plates (I'm plate-obssessed. Nasty condition.) The R18 comes in two sections, like some VIST plates. The I-Box is a single plate, or really two bits connected by the I-beam. And the R18 (#1 in your site photos) is the real racing setup. The I-Box (#2) is for juniors; the language suggests it's the same specs as #1 but with a composite I-Box, which I assume softens up the flex a touch. #3 is the I-Box for adults, appears to be Rossi's beer league/club ski, pretty sure the I-Box is still solid alu
Great post for the info! Thanks. Seems like there are differences from what's out there.
Plate obsessed? You purchase any plates separately? Used to be easy to find, now quite difficult. Not sure what's happening to VIST..
Originally Posted by ScotsSkier
Seems to be some confusion here. The R18 spec is the WC/race stock. Would have to check on current year but Mo my 2011 WC stocks have the connected plate, the X-box plate shown above, and all the genuine stuff i have seen uses this. The plate is mainly plastic with ally inserts for the mounts. Most plates seem to be going in this direction now rather than the solid ally plates from yesteryear. The old Ibox from several years ago was mainly metal but that has not been used for a while. Since they switch to the PX from the FKS IIRC or if not from about 2009.
You may be getting confused about the Blizz Slalom. I thought the "full suspension" was on the GS ski.? I have the race stock WC slalom (not true WC stock unfortunately - there are VERY few real deal WC Blizzard stock in the US). However teh regular race stock with the Marker plate is an excellent ski, not just for gates
Originally Posted by beyond
The shot above is from 2013 manual, so I assume that the change was made between 2011 and now. My I-Box is solid alu, so have a feeling that a while back they began to de-emphasize the role of the beam and put more reinforcement into the ski itself.
As far as the Blizzard, their site, under "World Cup Race," shows a "SL Race Suspension" model that clearly has a Marker WC piston plate. http://www.blizzard-ski.com/int/products/detail/product/show/sl-race-suspension.html Not the same as the GS model, but a piston. I was surprised too. It's the only adult SL model shown.
Good to know that the WC model works as a general ski.
Yes, the Slalom Race I've seen in a shop. Also, I think it's the one I tried on snow.
The plate had the piston and if you look from the side there is segmented sheet metal along most of the length of the plate..
I'm pretty sure I've seen another version without the piston and metal edge on the plate. Maybe it was an earlier year, I'm not sure.
Marker is changing their Comp 16 and 20 bindings for next year I believe.
btw, if you have junior racers, don't let them use the Marker Comp 10. Even if they're light. (well under 60lbs maybe ok) It has very poor boot hold down. - They will get play in the system. Use the 12 even if set near minimum.
Found this out the hardway skiing them myself.
Originally Posted by bttocs
I have a 2011-12 9SL slantnose ski, it is the design without any rocker and it came in a 175 cm length max. I bought the 175 length, 6'4", 250lbs, and it was the right length choice. For its year, it was the non-FIS slalom ski. I am curious if it is essentially the same ski as #4 without rocker? Also, is the ibox ski the same as the TPX ski, just the plate/binding system is different?
The ski I own does not have great grip on ice I discovered. This may be mostly due to the bottom bevel that a shop put on for me when new (basically won't be going back to them). Compared to my Blizzard race stock GS skis, the grip is night and day. I will have the ski ground this off season and make sure the bevels are done correctly next year. Planning to start with a .25/3 and up or variable the bottom bevel till I like the ski's performance. I figure the tune is mostly limiting the grip, but it might be the ski has its limits as well. It sure feels torsionally stiff, very similar to my RS Blizzard. On non ice snow, I enjoyed the ski a lot. Didn't run it much in gates, but planning to do so next season.
Rossi's naming is very confusing, although to a degree, its the same with other company's race offerings.
This is total conjecture, but yes I think so. I'm highly skeptical of the Tpx binding system. I won't call it a plate. The earlier plastic version of that they used for CS70/80 skis compromised them seriously for highl level skiing on hard snow.They were great skis.
Maybe Tpx is different enough though, but you've got that rail where the binding slides that could be a problem.
Most likely the tune was terrible. You might have a 2+ degree and very inconsistent base bevel.