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post #1 of 11
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So, I've often herad boot fitters say it should not be possible to lift your heel in a normal ski stance weighted forward. However, in most boots you can, when standing straight, lift your heel up a little bit.

What happens when you are jump turning on the steeps?

If it was me, I wouldn't want my heel to move at all and a nice snug boot stops this but how firm round the ankle does it have to be?

post #2 of 11

no heel lift in my boots since I got intuition powerwraps, and I'm able to buckle a lot looser (unfortunately the looser buckling lets the boots leak--see ask the boot guys forum--but I'm happy to deal with that.) And I have very skinny heels.  No--it doesn't have to be.

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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post

So, I've often herad boot fitters say it should not be possible to lift your heel in a normal ski stance weighted forward. However, in most boots you can, when standing straight, lift your heel up a little bit.

What happens when you are jump turning on the steeps?

If it was me, I wouldn't want my heel to move at all and a nice snug boot stops this but how firm round the ankle does it have to be?

I moved to boots that were designed for my narrow foot and I get no noticeable heel lift. A little bit of toe bang if I land back seat of a jump but pretty hard to prevent that. I leave my boots very loose as I have circulation issues in my feet and they go numb super easy.

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I moved to boots that were designed for my narrow foot and I get no noticeable heel lift. A little bit of toe bang if I land back seat of a jump but pretty hard to prevent that. I leave my boots very loose as I have circulation issues in my feet and they go numb super easy.

I didn't mean while skiing, I meant when you are standing still if you try and lift your heel up, it can sometimes move a bit.

post #5 of 11

Have you tired to use some 2" wide sticky back loop side of velcro and stick a couple of pieces to the liner just in front of your ankle, between the shell and liner.

 

This should hold your foot a little further back in the boot and lock your heel in more.

 

May be tighten the second buckle down one more turn.

post #6 of 11
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post

I didn't mean while skiing, I meant when you are standing still if you try and lift your heel up, it can sometimes move a bit.

If there is no lift during skiing than what's the issue?

post #7 of 11

I have dynalink, no heel lift in my boots..

post #8 of 11
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Originally Posted by lonewolf210 View Post

If there is no lift during skiing than what's the issue?

Well, if I can feel it when standing by trying to lift my leg up, then won't it also happen when jump turning on the steeps?

Just wondering whether it needs an adjustment or not.

 

 

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BOOT SIZING TIPS
When fitting alpine ski boots, your heel should be held down and back when your knees flex forward...even if you can get heel lift pushing up from the ball of your foot. Also, your foot should feel snug without tightening buckles all the way down.


Edited by GordonFreeman - 4/22/13 at 7:55am
post #9 of 11
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post

Well, if I can feel it when standing by trying to lift my leg up, then won't it also happen when jump turning on the steeps?

Just wondering whether it needs an adjustment or not.

 

 

Never bothered me. When performing a hop turn your pushing throw the whole foot. Not really the same as just tryingti lift your heel while standing there.

If it's only moving a little I wouldn't worry. Now if it's lifting a lot that could be a problem

 

 

I don't have any appreciable heel lift in my dalbellos though. I'm sure if I really tried I could get some but if that's your goal your not going to find any booots that can completely lock you in when your purposely trying to lift it.

 

EDIT: Even the boot sizing tips says that you will be able to lift your heel when purposely trying. It shouldn't lift during normal leg flexion

post #10 of 11
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Originally Posted by lonewolf210 View Post

Never bothered me. When performing a hop turn your pushing throw the whole foot. Not really the same as just tryingti lift your heel while standing there.

If it's only moving a little I wouldn't worry. Now if it's lifting a lot that could be a problem

 

 

I don't have any appreciable heel lift in my dalbellos though. I'm sure if I really tried I could get some but if that's your goal your not going to find any booots that can completely lock you in when your purposely trying to lift it.

 

EDIT: Even the boot sizing tips says that you will be able to lift your heel when purposely trying. It shouldn't lift during normal leg flexion

NO, IT DOESN'T, just that sometimes you can jump around a bit when turning if you're really unweighting the ski.

post #11 of 11
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Originally Posted by GordonFreeman View Post

NO, IT DOESN'T, just that sometimes you can jump around a bit when turning if you're really unweighting the ski.

From your earlier post

"your heel should be held down and back when your knees flex forward...even if you can get heel lift pushing up from the ball of your foot"

 

That sentence says that your heel should be held down while flexing your knees and that you may still be able to lift your heel when pushing up from the ball of the foot.

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