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post #31 of 41
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Since people have resurrected this thread suddenly, for various reasons, I'll just blurt out that I ended up scoring a pair of 2-season-old 175cm Rossi 23m FIS "women's" for a really good price on eBay. A Burke Mtn. Academy student needed cash. Her loss, my gain. These are going to be a big change from my 15m Blizzards, that's for sure. It will be a fun experiment. If I hate them or am slow on them or both, I'll get rid of them, but it will be a good learning experience either way. I like the idea of expanding my horizons a bit.

post #32 of 41

I am also 5'7" and 135 pounds.  Have been using the Elan GSX waveflex fusion in a 170 for the past two years for more truer GS courses.  Use the Elan SLX waveflex fusion in a 165 for tighter GS courses.  Both have worked great for me, if I really pressure the downhill ski.  They are not skis to lay back on however.  You must stay on top of them.  Hope this helps.

post #33 of 41
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Since people have resurrected this thread suddenly, for various reasons, I'll just blurt out that I ended up scoring a pair of 2-season-old 175cm Rossi 23m FIS "women's" for a really good price on eBay. 

Nice. Bet you'll love them. I have the 181 FIS women's from several seasons ago, very smooth, quick, more forgiving for mere mortals than most. But I think yours have the rocker, so better yet.

post #34 of 41
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Since people have resurrected this thread suddenly, for various reasons, I'll just blurt out that I ended up scoring a pair of 2-season-old 175cm Rossi 23m FIS "women's" for a really good price on eBay. A Burke Mtn. Academy student needed cash. Her loss, my gain. These are going to be a big change from my 15m Blizzards, that's for sure. It will be a fun experiment. If I hate them or am slow on them or both, I'll get rid of them, but it will be a good learning experience either way. I like the idea of expanding my horizons a bit.

 

Very preliminary returns are in on these Rossis. Still have no clue whether they will improve my race times. I did spend a weekday on them free skiing at Sunday River, with few other people on the hill, just to see how I would acclimate. What a blast! They have a very quiet, reliable feel to them without that yucky stiff-tip feeling that I don't really go for. Hook up very smoothly and predictably. Kind of dangerous, actually, how fast you can be going without realizing it on a solid ski like this ... until you encounter a roller or something and all of a sudden ... holy smokes! And other skiers on the hill? You gotta treat them like they're highly radioactive. Otherwise they're way too close as they go by like fence posts next to the interstate. ;)

 

Patience is a virtue, of course, on these. They teach a good lesson for me, early in the season, about not rushing the turn and just letting it build until you really have something to work with. Then you can crank in the radius a bit, not before. I'll save my praise for ScotsSkier, Beyond, and others who advised, until after I see if I can turn them quickly enough in the gates, but the fun factor is certainly high under the right circumstances. :D 

 

One final note is that these things must have amazing p-tex or wax or both. I marked a L and R ski and stuck to that religiously, because I want to try to keep at least one set of edges pristine for the moment. I was skiing on abrasive, hard man-made snow all day. At the end of the day I literally could not tell from looking at the bases which edge I'd been skiing on. That has never happened to me before.

post #35 of 41

Skiing a real race stock ski gives you a glimpse of why the top dogs can go so fast on race ice.

My old Atomic 21m women's skis are a treat but I don't last long compared to my Kastles.

post #36 of 41

I used my 183 23M Atomic D2s at for the GS practice courses at the Cardenali ski camp last week at Stratton instead of my cheaters. They felt good especially (as qcanoe stated) when the turn was not rushed. I'm going to give them a try again this season when we get into the actual Masters and beer league races. I'll keep my cheaters handy though.................if they work I'll be looking for a pair of 183 23M Redsters.

 

Stats:5'10" 175 lbs. or so 61 yrs old.

post #37 of 41
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I suspect what you are feeling is really working the tip of the ski to drive into the turn and hook upas opposed to sort of shuffling the feet into more of a Z turn on the shorter radius cheaters. Yes, takes a little bit to acclimatize but will give you much more power through the turn
post #38 of 41
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Skiing a real race stock ski gives you a glimpse of why the top dogs can go so fast on race ice.
My old Atomic 21m women's skis are a treat but I don't last long compared to my Kastles.

I totally resemble that remark! Sort of the skiing equivalent of a PICNIC. (problem in chair, not in computer.) smile.gif
post #39 of 41
Wrt the edges being more durable. They have probably been done with a trione or similar grinder, which tends to produce a more durable as well as sharper edge.

I hear you about the rollers at Sunday river. I skied therefor 3 years and it took a long time to get used to handling them. Either got big air or had to throw them sideways. Almost like a roller coaster in some parts. I never did work out how much was natural terrain and how much was created by the snow gun positions!
post #40 of 41
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Since people have resurrected this thread suddenly, for various reasons, I'll just blurt out that I ended up scoring a pair of 2-season-old 175cm Rossi 23m FIS "women's" for a really good price on eBay. A Burke Mtn. Academy student needed cash. Her loss, my gain. These are going to be a big change from my 15m Blizzards, that's for sure. It will be a fun experiment. If I hate them or am slow on them or both, I'll get rid of them, but it will be a good learning experience either way. I like the idea of expanding my horizons a bit.

 

Very preliminary returns are in on these Rossis. Still have no clue whether they will improve my race times. I did spend a weekday on them free skiing at Sunday River, with few other people on the hill, just to see how I would acclimate. What a blast! 

 

First race of the year is now in the books, and on their inaugural outing the new (to-me) 23m boards were great, despite minimal ramp-up time on my part. Thumbs Up  I think I was able to ski a smoother line with fewer micro-corrections, and my time was good. Next time they will no doubt set a tighter course and I will be whining, but for now I'm happy.

 

Still in awe of the tune on those skis, which apparently was done last spring by Edgewise, based circumstantially on the straps that arrived on them. I did just the lightest possible 400 grit touch up on them with my 93-degree guide to get a couple of little dings out from my previous outing, and the stone only took off marker on the 1st 1/2 mm or so on the base-ward portion of the side edge. I therefore infer that they must have a 4 degree bevel on them. :eek  Halfway through the night, after I was done racing and put on some warmer clothes and doused the fire in my hair, I busted out a different pair of skis that I knew had a decent tune on them and that I could keep up with without risking a cardiac event. Huge difference in grip. Felt like I was on rentals for the first couple of runs. There are good tunes and there are great tunes.

post #41 of 41

They are a treat but they take a lot of edge angle to work well.

 

At our beer league/NASTAR hill the pacesetter will set anywhere from 10 to 14 gates depending on circumstances.

I can smoke the 10 gate courses on my 21 m skis but I do best on my SL's when I see 14.

Let us know how it goes.

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