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Remind me why I'm not supposed to ski?

post #1 of 17
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I postponed my ACL & meniscus surgery from late April to May due to some newly discovered high blood pressure issues.

 

We're getting dumped on in Colorado. Breck, Vail, and other areas have extended their seasons. The mountains are calling my name and my unused pass is very lonely.

 

My knee feels great and I could really use a break. I'm so tempted to go out and do some mellow skiing since at the rate I'm going, next ski season is blown now.

 

What would you do?

post #2 of 17

Well I can only guess, but here is my guess.  If it were me, I guess, like you, would be sitting there with a knee feeling pretty good after a period of recuperation.  I would not have a postponed surgery pending because I would not have gone to see an M.D.  I would use my knee progressively and modify how much I pushed it depending on whether the recovery continued to progress or started  regressing.  Oh, bonus, 'cause I don't bother much with M.D.s, I wouldn't feel obliged to worry about my blood pressure either.  biggrin.gifJust guessing though.

post #3 of 17

What I did 22 years ago was go ahead and ski even though I had no acl and the surgery was scheduled for 3 months later.

 

I ended up severely damaging the meniscus in a simple turn - no fall, no undue stress in the turn, just a plain old turn.  The knee shifted or something - I assume due to the instability of not having an acl - and it damaged the meniscus much more than it had been previously.

 

Now, 22 years later, the acl is long healed and forgotten.  The amount of meniscus I had to have removed, however, has finally resulted in a bone-on-bone situation that is going to require a knee replacement sometime in the next few years.

 

So to answer your question of what would I do?  Knowing what I know now that I didn't know then?  I wouldn't ski.

 

I sure sympathize with your situation, though.

 

Good luck with the decision.

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

What I did 22 years ago was go ahead and ski even though I had no acl and the surgery was scheduled for 3 months later.

 

I ended up severely damaging the meniscus in a simple turn - no fall, no undue stress in the turn, just a plain old turn.  The knee shifted or something - I assume due to the instability of not having an acl - and it damaged the meniscus much more than it had been previously.

 

Now, 22 years later, the acl is long healed and forgotten.  The amount of meniscus I had to have removed, however, has finally resulted in a bone-on-bone situation that is going to require a knee replacement sometime in the next few years.

 

So to answer your question of what would I do?  Knowing what I know now that I didn't know then?  I wouldn't ski.

 

I sure sympathize with your situation, though.

 

Good luck with the decision.

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the ACL is a MAJOR stabilizer of the knee. Unless you get a top of the line brace and are willing to take a risk don't do anything stupid...

post #5 of 17
Thread Starter 

Thanks for the words of discouragement! :) Sometimes that little devil sits on my shoulder saying "just do it!" and I need someone to talk him down.

post #6 of 17
Why is next season blown, rx2ski? Your meniscus repair will require a period of no weight bearing, and the ACL will need significant therapy, but if you have surgery in May, the recovery should be well on its way by next winter. You might not be able to visit the WRODs in October, but surely you could ski when the season gets fully under way.
post #7 of 17
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When surgery was scheduled on 4/30, I asked the doctor whether January was a realistic goal. The doctor said maybe in February. Now that it's scheduled 3 weeks later (5/21), that would push skiing to almost March.

 

I'm not going to risk anything this season--it's just when there's snow outside my door on the plains (east of I-25) and the knee feels good, it's hard to NOT think about skiing now. I'm never looking at my EpicMix again--looking at 0 vertical is painful! I should have thrown it in someone's pocked just to record a few runs. ;)

 

I do want to come up to the A-Basin GTG just to hang out and take some pics.

 

I'll have to make a decision on buying a pass before I can even ski. Might be an Eldora season (cheap tickets, short drive, don't mind skiing shorter hours until leg feels good, no lodging expenses) instead of an Epic one. Although, there are a lot of pre-Olympic competitions I want to go see, but I dodn't know if I'll have to ski to get to them. I'll have to see what happens down the road.

 

Karen

post #8 of 17
Of course you know our best snow, on average, is in February and March.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by Kneale Brownson View Post

Of course you know our best snow, on average, is in February and March.

 

I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

 

As for snow outside of the mountains, I think I can officially say I'm sick of it this year! Let it rain down on the flats! We need the moisture, but these icy commutes are getting old!

post #10 of 17

Maybe this will make you feel better ... that spring snow can be grabby, which is probably not a good thing on a weakened leg. You have a higher risk of tweaking something. Are you pre-habbing right now? Start off as strong as you can.

post #11 of 17
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Originally Posted by Bob Peters View Post

What I did 22 years ago was go ahead and ski even though I had no acl and the surgery was scheduled for 3 months later.

 

I ended up severely damaging the meniscus in a simple turn - no fall, no undue stress in the turn, just a plain old turn.  The knee shifted or something - I assume due to the instability of not having an acl - and it damaged the meniscus much more than it had been previously.

 

Now, 22 years later, the acl is long healed and forgotten.  The amount of meniscus I had to have removed, however, has finally resulted in a bone-on-bone situation that is going to require a knee replacement sometime in the next few years.

 

So to answer your question of what would I do?  Knowing what I know now that I didn't know then?  I wouldn't ski.

 

I sure sympathize with your situation, though.

 

Good luck with the decision.

RX2ski, as much as I'd love to ski with you in the next few weeks, I'd much rather spend some time socializing and then get a chance to ski with the fully healed version of you in a year.  Take care and I'll see you for drinks and dinner in a couple weeks. 

post #12 of 17
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Originally Posted by segbrown View Post Are you pre-habbing right now? Start off as strong as you can.

 

^This.

post #13 of 17
Thread Starter 

Segbrown and Cantunamunch, Yes, I have been pre-habbing (alone and with a physical therapist) since the injury (2/3).

 

Trekchick, I'll be ready to work on my tan on the beach with you guys in a few weeks. That should help lower the blood pressure!

post #14 of 17
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Originally Posted by rx2ski View Post

Segbrown and Cantunamunch, Yes, I have been pre-habbing (alone and with a physical therapist) since the injury (2/3).

 

Trekchick, I'll be ready to work on my tan on the beach with you guys in a few weeks. That should help lower the blood pressure!

You can chat about knee Pre-hab with mr DSloan. biggrin.gif

post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by rx2ski View Post

Segbrown and Cantunamunch, Yes, I have been pre-habbing (alone and with a physical therapist) since the injury (2/3).

 

Trekchick, I'll be ready to work on my tan on the beach with you guys in a few weeks. That should help lower the blood pressure!

 

Good choice.  While skiing next year may be tempting - do you want to take the chance of potentially damaging the knee again?

I had one ACL surgery and don't care to repeat the experience. I had surgery in December and started skiing the following November. I have not had any problems at all and really don't realize I had ACL surgery.

 

My surgeon told me that the cause of most ACL failure is doing too much too soon.   I know this post will be swamped with people who say they skied X number of months after the surgery and were fine etc.  It is your choice to make.   I am conservative when it comes to stuff like this.  I kept myself busy spinning at the gym, bike riding in the summer and doing all kinds of things to make my leg stronger.  I did not go to Breck and I stayed off skiing websites.  It was easier for me to keep myself away from any temptations.

 

Your opinion may vary but what is important that once you invest the time and money into a surgery to give it the best possible chance of success.

post #16 of 17
Thread Starter 

My rational side generally wins out and prevents me from making unwise choices. Will be hitting the 70s here this weekend so it will be a lot easier to keep the mind off of skiing

post #17 of 17
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Originally Posted by skier31 View Post

Good choice.  While skiing next year may be tempting - do you want to take the chance of potentially damaging the knee again?
I had one ACL surgery and don't care to repeat the experience. I had surgery in December and started skiing the following November. I have not had any problems at all and really don't realize I had ACL surgery.

My surgeon told me that the cause of most ACL failure is doing too much too soon.   I know this post will be swamped with people who say they skied X number of months after the surgery and were fine etc.  It is your choice to make.   I am conservative when it comes to stuff like this.  I kept myself busy spinning at the gym, bike riding in the summer and doing all kinds of things to make my leg stronger.  I did not go to Breck and I stayed off skiing websites.  It was easier for me to keep myself away from any temptations.

Your opinion may vary but what is important that once you invest the time and money into a surgery to give it the best possible chance of success.


One of my clients this season is a physician from Florida who told me he is heavily into bicycling. He said he lost his ACL in a group crash because he couldn't unclip fast enough. You want to be careful about what activities you get into.
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