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2004 Salomon Crossmax 10's

post #1 of 22
Thread Starter 
Anyone see the 2004 Crossmax's yet? They are pretty redesigned.. I'm thinking of getting some 10's, but don't know if I should get some of the 2003's at a good, late-season price or buy the redesigned 2004's. I guess they changed the pilot system a lot.

Thanks
post #2 of 22
The Y bones have become parallel bones.
post #3 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by LongThong:
The Y bones have become parallel bones.
Can you explain in a bit more detail? What was the y bone? Does any other ski manufacturer do anything like this? Thanks
post #4 of 22
They are fun skis, but I know *I* certainly wouldn't pay the retail price on these babies. No ski is worth $1200(+/-)! I'd opt for the deal on the '03's myself.
post #5 of 22
Thread Starter 
Yeah, $1200 is outrageous.. Ski Market has them for $799... I have a buddy who works there... 20% off that would be accecptable...
post #6 of 22
I will be skiing the 03 and 04 Crossmax 10 back to back this weekend. Opinions to follow.
post #7 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by redbull:
Yeah, $1200 is outrageous.. Ski Market has them for $799... I have a buddy who works there... 20% off that would be accecptable...
I just picked up some '03 demos that went out only a handful of times this season for $300 from a bud in Steamboat. I couldn't pass them up for that price.
post #8 of 22
I can actually get thw 2004 crossmax 10's with the S914Ti binding for $699 right now if anyone's interested.
post #9 of 22
Thread Starter 
Quote:
Originally posted by CafeDelMar81:
I can actually get thw 2004 crossmax 10's with the S914Ti binding for $699 right now if anyone's interested.
I am. In a 175. email me at redbulllova@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Steve
post #10 of 22
That's weird, I had the Xscream Series the first year is came out with parallel bones, then they changed em to Y bones the next year. I guess they always gotta change somethin. Keelty has a short review of the new Crossmax at http://www.techsupportforskiers.com, if you're a member you can get it, if not it's cheap to join and is a great resource. Looks like the Crossmax is narrower next year, 106/66/98 vs. 107/69/102 this year, so new one is maybe less versatile? He says the new ski is more powerful and demanding.
post #11 of 22
Quote:
Originally posted by redbull:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by CafeDelMar81:
I can actually get thw 2004 crossmax 10's with the S914Ti binding for $699 right now if anyone's interested.
I am. In a 175. email me at redbulllova@yahoo.com

Thanks,
Steve
</font>[/quote]I think they only come in 60, 70, 80, 85 and 90 unless they changed the sizes for 04 along with the sidecut.
post #12 of 22
Thread Starter 
They must have changed them for this year. I just saw a 175 at Ski Market...
post #13 of 22
They have indeed changed some of the lengths. Last year was just the 160, 170, 180. This year there is 175.
post #14 of 22
The '04 ski is a great deal different then the '03. Don't know the stats off the top but I do know they ski totally different. I hated the '03, thought they were soft noodles and did weird stuff rebounding and such. The 04 is much beefier and the 10 likes the fall line a lot. It looks like they moved the sidecut back a bit. It's sort of like it comes back fairly straight from the tip and then into the real side cut. I think the ski will appeal to the guy doing some straighlining and a lot of high speed big turns in rough or cut up terrain. They're beefy enough to handle the speed which I never thought the old ones were. The pilot is different and has a lot to do with the mid body of the ski being stiffer.

I think the 9 is a more 'technical' ski, more typical sidecut and quite a bit of it. Turns short easy but manageable and stable at speed, good versatility and a good teaching ski because of it's all round attributes. The 8 is a pretty decent ski, I wouldn't pick it for myself but it's a good performer through quite a high performance level and very easy and forgiving.

Not to justify the pricing but when you guys comment on the cost I hope you're keeping in mind that it includes the bindings. I find a lot of people get 'sticker shock' at first glance of the cost but they don't come out that much (any) different than comparable skis once bindings are included.
post #15 of 22
Thread Starter 
OK,
I demoed a set this weekend....

Took some pics if anyone wants to see what they look like...

Anyone know how to upload images?
post #16 of 22
Skied on the 03 and the 04 Crossmax 10 in 185cm. The 04 is a beefier ski (probably due to Space Frame Construction) with increased edgehold and feels more stable and damp than the 03. I like the 04 better than the 03. I also skied the 04 Crossmax 10 back to back with my 188cm Salomon Equipe 10 2V and prefer the 2V on the groom and especially harder snow.
post #17 of 22
Thread Starter 
OK, figured out the picture thing:






post #18 of 22
04 Crossmax 10 sizes 175,180,185, sidecut for these lengths is 106/66/98 165,155 sidecut for these lengths 108/65/98
post #19 of 22
Last week, Ski Television's Chris Robinson was on a new Crossmax that was bubblebee coloured (black and yellow). Which one was that?
post #20 of 22
It may have been one of the new Scream skis. One of them is the hot and then there is a super hot or something like that. I dont recall exactly, but earlier in the season someone one this site posted a link to salomon's entire freeride and skiercross type ski line for next season. Search for the post, you may find it - i have forgotten the name of the thread though...
Later
GREG
post #21 of 22
Thread Starter 
I saw the 2004 Scream 10. That was most likely it. It's much fatter this year than the 2003. The 2003 seemed to almost be excatly the smae width as the Crossmax. the 2004 is visably much wider. Same sort of color pattern as the 2003
post #22 of 22
Warren, it was the Crossmax 9

New Salomons in the Scream 10 Pilot Series:

3 peppers AK Rocket Pilot 195cm only 118/86/110

2 peppers Scream 10 Pilot Xtra Hot 185/175cm 116/82/108 165cm 114/80/106

1 pepper Scream 10 Pilot Hot 185/175/165/155cm 110/75/100
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