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post #31 of 67

I saw the thread from 2013 . There you give a good description.

post #32 of 67

One thing I did at Gunstock because I was there for the season was back the trailer on two planks. Then at the four corners I put two more 8 footers across. From the I use two by threes to build a frame on the ground. The I run cheap strapping up th the bottom of the camper. About 2 feet apart. Then I shrink wrap it. Then I tape some more strapping spaced out then shrink wrap it again. For the double pane effect. Inside I use plexiglass I got from lowe's and with these tab things for screen windows I attack them over the windows for double. That foam blanket that people wrap their hot water tanks with. I use that to cover vents and I turn the screen door into a storm door .  Hope this info helps.

PS Lowes cut them for me. I brought the measurements in.

post #33 of 67

I just bought a Northern lite 4 season camper. This is a bomb proof 4 season camper with heated holding tanks. It is heavier than the 3 season pop up and a little top heavy, but not as bad as other 4 season campers. Fits on my 2500HD. Will be getting new tires and chains for this winter. Plan to winterize the camper but still use the bathroom if absolutely need to and will use grey water system.

 

Grand Targhee- Lower lot, need a pass from front desk. I think it is $20-30 per night.

Sun Valley- 2 camp grounds in town allow winter parking

Jackson- There is a winter camp ground  $56/night

post #34 of 67
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I just bought a Northern lite 4 season camper. This is a bomb proof 4 season camper with heated holding tanks. It is heavier than the 3 season pop up and a little top heavy, but not as bad as other 4 season campers. Fits on my 2500HD. Will be getting new tires and chains for this winter. Plan to winterize the camper but still use the bathroom if absolutely need to and will use grey water system.

 

Grand Targhee- Lower lot, need a pass from front desk. I think it is $20-30 per night.

Sun Valley- 2 camp grounds in town allow winter parking

Jackson- There is a winter camp ground  $56/night

 

Congratulations, it sounds like a great rig.

 

Even though it is 4 season you still might have trouble with water lines freezing inside the camper in really cold weather and depending on their location, dump valves might also freeze. Here is what I use for a shower:

 

 

Just heat water on the stove and shower with 2 gallons of water. It has a low flow shower head and a pressure release valve.

post #35 of 67
I'd have to shave my head to get by with two gallons of water.
post #36 of 67
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I'd have to shave my head to get by with two gallons of water.

 

You might need short hair, but keep in mind the low flow shower head works better than you would expect. And the set up works way way better than those hang up gravity flow camping shower bags.

post #37 of 67

Good advice. I actually plan to winterize the water lines so they do not freeze. I plan to bring 5gallon of water with me. I like the shower idea. 

Plan to put RV antifreeze down the grey water and Black water any time i use these systems. I am still a little worried about freezing but the tanks in this RV are heated and if I use the RV antifreeze at right ratio I think I should be ok based on what I have been able to read on RV forums.  Youtube has some good videos too. Cant wait to get to the hill. 

post #38 of 67

If you are using your furnace and  are not able to plug in every couple of nights your batteries will expire quickly with unpleasant results. Check your onboard charging system to make sure it is a 'smart charger' and find out it's maximum charging input. If you decide you need something more effective consider an Intellipower charger and a small generator. 

post #39 of 67
I actually have Solar, 95 watts to recharge 2 6volt batteries. My plan is to never go more than 72 hours without plugging in in the winter. I will consider generator, weight is a concern for me. I amp using the GWVR for my truck
post #40 of 67
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If you are using your furnace and  are not able to plug in every couple of nights your batteries will expire quickly with unpleasant results. Check your onboard charging system to make sure it is a 'smart charger' and find out it's maximum charging input. If you decide you need something more effective consider an Intellipower charger and a small generator. 

 

Initially I was going to buy a 1000watt Honda generator for running my multi stage battery charger but instead I bought the 2000watt Honda and I am glad I did. The fan on my 18k BTU furnace draws around 4.3 amps (I think) so if it is really cold and I am running the generator to charge the batteries, the furnace wants to stay on and the furnace's fan starts to draw down the batteries almost as fast as they are charging, so it takes a long time to charge batteries in that situation.

 

However, with the 2000 watt Honda generator, 1600watt continuous power means I can turn off the propane furnace while charging batteries AND run an electric heater. The battery charger is 180watts so the Honda will run on econo mode with the space heater at 1000watt setting and if needed it can even handle it on normal mode at 1500watt heater output

 

The above procedure saves propane which is a good thing because a 20lb (5gallon) propane tank which lasts all summer for cooking and refrigeration will last 2-3 days in winter when running a propane furnace. The OPs rig has the necessary two 20lb tanks.Thumbs Up I don't know if the OPs camper has one, but a propane regulator that automatically switches to the full tank when one tank becomes empty, is well worth having since propane tanks always run out in the middle of the coldest night.:D

 

If the OP is interested in the portable shower that I posted in an earlier post, it is called a Hot Jugz Portable Shower. If you google it, make sure you include the words portable shower or you will get porn site listings. I paid $50US 6 years ago, I think they are around $70 now.

post #41 of 67
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I actually have Solar, 95 watts to recharge 2 6volt batteries. My plan is to never go more than 72 hours without plugging in in the winter. I will consider generator, weight is a concern for me. I amp using the GWVR for my truck

 

Rear air bags or overload springs if you haven't already done so.

 

I use my grey water tank and dump it immediately after showering, however I found that it was difficult to get every last drop to drain and then the slow accumulation of water over a few hours would cause the drain line to freeze where it passes through the camper wall. The solution was to install an on/off valve in the drain line about a foot inside the camper from the outside wall. So then there is only air not water in the drain line between the outside wall and the valve. This set up also works great in summer when you want to unscrew the drain cap and attach a hose, if you have the inside valve closed then you don't get grey water gushing at you while attaching the hose.

 

I haven't bothered with solar because in winter the sun is at a low angle and thus has less power, less daylight hours, lots of cloudy days, and having to keep snow cleared off the panels.

post #42 of 67
Great suggestions on the Grey water tank. Do you use RV antifreeze in the Grey water system? Do you use your black water in winter?
I had not considered those Solar issues, will have to see what I get. Sounds Like a generator is in my future.
I do have airbags and working on the sway bar.
Sounds like you know your stuff, thanks for advice. Can I ask what set up you have? Always good to have a comparison.
post #43 of 67
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Great suggestions on the Grey water tank. Do you use RV antifreeze in the Grey water system? Do you use your black water in winter?
I had not considered those Solar issues, will have to see what I get. Sounds Like a generator is in my future.
I do have airbags and working on the sway bar.
Sounds like you know your stuff, thanks for advice. Can I ask what set up you have? Always good to have a comparison.

RV plumbing anti freeze is not made to be diluted so I drain the grey water right after showering or washing dishes.

 

I have a porta-potti and so no black water tank. I use RV anti freeze instead of water in the flush tank but since I keep my camper heater on low for my dog while I am out skiing, I don't really need to worry about the tank freezing anyway. But it does keep the porta-potti from freezing when the camper is parked and not in use.

 

I like to have a couple of vents open at night and even a small crack open on a roof vent can allow fine snow flakes to blow in. A plastic vent dome installed over top of the roof vent allows the vent to be open more than a crack when it is snowing.

 

I have written up a fairly extensive description of my truck camper in the past. I forget what thread it is in.

post #44 of 67
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RV plumbing anti freeze is not made to be diluted so I drain the grey water right after showering or washing dishes.

 

I have a porta-potti and so no black water tank. I use RV anti freeze instead of water in the flush tank but since I keep my camper heater on low for my dog while I am out skiing, I don't really need to worry about the tank freezing anyway. But it does keep the porta-potti from freezing when the camper is parked and not in use.

 

I like to have a couple of vents open at night and even a small crack open on a roof vent can allow fine snow flakes to blow in. A plastic vent dome installed over top of the roof vent allows the vent to be open more than a crack when it is snowing.

 

I have written up a fairly extensive description of my truck camper in the past. I forget what thread it is in.

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/121261/rv-s-to-the-slopes

 

Post #11 not sure if it's the one your thinking of but it's a fairly good description of your truck

post #45 of 67
Great to finally chat with someone who does this. Have a great winter. If you are at Targher look for a norther lite camper on a Chevy 2500
Cheers
post #46 of 67
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I actually have Solar, 95 watts to recharge 2 6volt batteries. My plan is to never go more than 72 hours without plugging in in the winter. I will consider generator, weight is a concern for me. I amp using the GWVR for my truck

95 watts @ 12 volts = 6 amps going into your batteries assuming optimal angle to the sun and no snow on the panels. I don't know your furnace but mine has a 7 amp draw. With lower battery capacity due to  cold and the rate of furnace cycling dependent on temperature, you may find the 72 hour plug in cycle optimistic. As far as generator weight is concerned, my Honda EU 1000 weighs 28 lbs and with the 30 amp Intellipower charger I can charge two 6 volt deep cycles with 260 amp hour total capacity from very low to max in 6 hours. If I had it to do over again I would follow DanoT's advice and go for a 2000. 

post #47 of 67
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A van with a (expensive) 4X4 conversion also works great and just a regular would be ok I guess but these really are not RVs.

Heavy RVs weighing 10klbs plus with rear dual wheels that "float" on the snow instead of narrow tire set up that cuts through the snow are not a good idea for driving in snow

I was very fortunate to come across an already 4x4 converted class B Pleasure Way RV that I further modified to become the ultimate ski bum vehicle. 20ft long so it uses only "one" ample-sized parking space & is much less noticable than a class A or C. For up to 2 people (3 if necessary), it's a full RV with the cockpit as usable living space. I modified the external plumbing so it is automatically anti-iced, plus it has insulated pipes w/ heater tapes for de-icing if I forget to activate the anti-icing system. Nontoxic RV antifreeze in the grey & black water tanks. Single tires on rear axle are quite stressed but tracks well in snow. Realistically, the RV is over GVW @ about 11klbs. Has dual electric/propane redundant water heater. Coach AGM 105Ah battery charged by engine alternator, generator, & 85W solar panel. Microwave, 3-way refrigerator, propane stove, AC, propane furnace, electric heater, 5.1 surround sound BluRay home theater system, full bathroom w/shower, Internet w/ streaming, XM radio, HAM-radio 2m/440 transceiver crossband repeater w/ motorized antenna. Quite comfortable to 15*F but cold air drafts off the walls/windows below that. Coldest experienced was -25*F.
Unfortunately, can no longer overnight at Alpine Meadows but dry-camping for several days was easily done.
RoadTrek Popular 190's can be ordered 4x4 converted but it still sits a bit low for clearance but should be ok for most ski trip situations. Although rare, they occasionally pop up on the "pre-owned" listings.
The Tiger 4x4 MH are supposedly quite nice but quite expensive. Used 4x4 Tigers are practically non-existent which says a lot about their loyal owners. Snow removal with popup campers would seem to be a pain but seen others be ok with it.
It seems to me that smaller is better for skiing RV's if you can handle the coziness. Sportsmobile's can work too but it's quite spartan. As well, smaller makes it easier to get around in the thick of storms which is what I'd normally do on a Friday night getting to the resorts amongst the SF Bay area madness to Tahoe.
post #48 of 67


Hi

So first night at Jackson hole, temp into the 10's and guess what?  Yep, drained my battery. I was parked where I could have plugged in, but was testing your theory. So, at 6am I had to get up and plug in.  This is just a note to say thanks for the advice and cautionary tale, I might not have tested this rig had I not had your warning. 

When I finish this post I will be looking into Generators. 

 

Cheers,

 

Chris

post #49 of 67
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Hi

So first night at Jackson hole, temp into the 10's and guess what?  Yep, drained my battery. I was parked where I could have plugged in, but was testing your theory. So, at 6am I had to get up and plug in.  This is just a note to say thanks for the advice and cautionary tale, I might not have tested this rig had I not had your warning. 

When I finish this post I will be looking into Generators. 

 

Cheers,

 

Chris

 

Buy either a 2000 watt Honda or Yamaha generator. Yeah you can get a cheap Chinese gen for half price, but that big $ savings isn't going to be worth much when it is -20 and you absolutely need that generator to start. In 6 years of winter use I have had a starting problem one time. I had no problem finding a power shop to fix it as it was due to some sort of valve or something sticking closed and interrupting fuel flow.

post #50 of 67

To add to my and DanoT previous posts, if you get a generator you will also may need to upgrade your charging system. The 12 v output on my Honda EU 1000 is 6 amps and the EU 2000 may be the same. If you use this output your batteries will take forever to charge. When you run the generator you will plug the 110 output into your unit and if you are lucky, your unit will have a smart charger system that will pump 20 or 30 amps into your battery. Check your manual or dealer to see what the max output on your unit's system. If t doesn't have a smart charger you have two options. The quality way to go is a builtin unit like Progressive Dynamics Intellipower with the Charge Wizard option. The have remanufactured units that are quite reasonable.

 

http://www.progressivedyn.com/hotdeals.html

 

The cheaper way to go is to buy a smart charger like you would have in your garage (20 amp minimum), clip it to your battery as needed and then plug the charger into your generator. 


Edited by Castle Dave - 11/19/16 at 11:58am
post #51 of 67

What are y'all's thoughts on buying something like a cheap econoline and upgrading it?

post #52 of 67
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What are y'all's thoughts on buying something like a cheap econoline and upgrading it?

First thought is 'waste of money that could be spent on skiing'. Second thought is if you want to endure the whole van/skibum experience at least spend the money on an old van that's already converted. Our first RV was a '77 Dodge camper van affectionately dubbed 'the Shit Brown Van'. However we would never use it in the winter as that was just too masochistic to even think about.

The only reason to get a van is if you are too poor to afford a motel. Your lift tickets will cost the same and your gas bill will be higher plus insurance, real snow tires, etc. etc. 

post #53 of 67
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First thought is 'waste of money that could be spent on skiing'. Second thought is if you want to endure the whole van/skibum experience at least spend the money on an old van that's already converted. Our first RV was a '77 Dodge camper van affectionately dubbed 'the Shit Brown Van'. However we would never use it in the winter as that was just too masochistic to even think about.

The only reason to get a van is if you are too poor to afford a motel. Your lift tickets will cost the same and your gas bill will be higher plus insurance, real snow tires, etc. etc. 

 

Yeah but half the fun is the project of converting it. Good points though. I just think it would be fun to have a small camper to use rather than a whole RV. I already camp in my truck plenty and have done sub zero temps in it.  

post #54 of 67
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Yeah but half the fun is the project of converting it. Good points though. I just think it would be fun to have a small camper to use rather than a whole RV. I already camp in my truck plenty and have done sub zero temps in it.  

So, no point in buying a van, just get a truck cap or popup shell for the truck and start the project that way.

post #55 of 67
The Progressive Dynamics w/ charge wizard is still too slow a charge.
Anyone have suggestions for a high-amp RV charger for an AGM 105Ah battery (in cold conditions)?
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Originally Posted by Castle Dave View Post

To add to my and DanoT previous posts, if you get a generator you will also may need to upgrade your charging system. The 12 v output on my Honda EU 1000 is 6 amps and the EU 2000 may be the same. If you use this output your batteries will take forever to charge. When you run the generator you will plug the 110 output into your unit and if you are lucky, your unit will have a smart charger system that will pump 20 or 30 amps into your battery. Check your manual or dealer to see what the max output on your unit's system. If t doesn't have a smart charger you have two options. The quality way to go is a builtin unit like Progressive Dynamics Intellipower with the Charge Wizard option. The have remanufactured units that are quite reasonable.

http://www.progressivedyn.com/hotdeals.html

The cheaper way to go is to buy a smart charger like you would have in your garage (20 amp minimum), clip it to your battery as needed and then plug the charger into your generator. 
post #56 of 67

For all the Truck camper folks out there, What do you do with the Skis?  They are driving me crazy in the camper at night but I do not like leaving them alone outside, any thoughts?

post #57 of 67
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For all the Truck camper folks out there, What do you do with the Skis?  They are driving me crazy in the camper at night but I do not like leaving them alone outside, any thoughts?

 

My truck camper has a ladder and I put a ski in a ski bag and attach a ski to each side of the ladder, secured with a bike cable lock wrapped tightly around the ski between the binding toe and heel piece.

 

At night the ski that was in use for the day gets locked in the truck cab at night.

post #58 of 67

I'm seeking a slide in for my K10 project, but a cap will suffice for much less. Should I go the cap route, I'll elevate the floor for ski storage. I can only imagine how cold a steel bed floor would be in the morning, anyway. 

post #59 of 67
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The Progressive Dynamics w/ charge wizard is still too slow a charge.
Anyone have suggestions for a high-amp RV charger for an AGM 105Ah battery (in cold conditions)?
 

Sorry I can't help you with that. From what I have read AGM batteries recharge up to 5 times faster than regular lead acid batteries - very cool!

post #60 of 67
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So, no point in buying a van, just get a truck cap or popup shell for the truck and start the project that way.

 

I'm hesitant to limit the use of the bed by putting a top on it. I live in an apartment so I have no where to store it if I take it off.

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