I'm going to start with something that I hope we can all agree on because I think we all have a good amount of common sense. Yes there are one-dimensional "zipperline skiers". There are also "zipperline skiers" that are not at all one-dimensional. Furthermore there are some racers that aren't so good off the groomed and some that are. It's not that hard to figure out. Practice on any terrain is better than no practice at all, but if a basketball player ONLY practiced lay-ups, should he be expected to be good at 3 pointers? Should a tennis player be expected to be equally awesome at table tennis or handball? Whether or not a skier is very one-dimensional depends on if he practices more than one thing much or not. We have a lot of different sub-sports within our sport. If a person ONLY skied in a half-pipe, that's the only thing he'd be great at. Mogul skiers are a little unusual in the way that many of them actually never practice anything else. Some don't care about skiing anything else. I have known mogul skiers like this. Other ones practice many different things. People at resorts that are always ice (New York State resorts lol), might lack skill in powder. Learning more skills (like the zipperline skill) would never have negative consequences on other skills if you practice them as well. Becoming more well-rounded is a good thing that usually benefits all accross the board. Common sense.
The asian video is of Janne Lahtela. A world cup mogul skier and olympic gold medalist from 2002. He coaches the Japanese team now. That video proves how easily a good skier who likes zipperlines can ski slower with rounder turns. To suggest that a good world cup style mogul skier can't ski with rounder, slower turns is the same as suggesting that a racer can ONLY make fast powerful turns on the groomed and never learned to make them slower. I cannot understand how anyone could think this stuff.
Any really good mogul skier who likes zipperlines could of course make rounder slower turns in the moguls in the same way that a downhill racer can also ski slower. Would a child really only learn to ski at 80mph? Furthermore, to suggest that a really good "zipperline skier" can only ski a zipperline is like saying a gate racer can't turn without gates. SOME people you will see in a zipperline might do really poorly outside of one, but I would think that that would also mean that they did pretty poorly in the zipperline as well. Skiers who are not so good in a zipperline, might not be able to ski other parts of the moguls either. I don't think anyone who is truly good in a zipper can't ski other parts of a mogul field.
I have thought about making a video of myself skiing slowly with round turns (or over the tops of moguls or whatever) just to settle arguments, but I don't particularly want to post of public video of myself skiing in a way that to me is mediocre. It's like... here I am skiing as well as I possibly can... and here I am skiing a lot slower and worse... the crazy thing is that a lot of people would think that the slower, worse version is actually somehow better because they don't understand. The way these arguments go, it seems that at some point I will either finally break down and make the video of me skiing mediocrely or I will eventually leave these forums for good, because it's hard for me to listen to this stuff. For now I am not going to make the video and hope that I won't have to. I already go out of my way to try to tell people the truth when I make a post like this (at my own expense since I hate arguments and getting my skiing criticized)... if people refuse to listen and are so determined to misunderstand our sport, that is not really my problem, and it's not my responsibility to bend over backwards to help them.
If the PSIA/CSIA are not into zipperlines, it could be that the PSIA/CSIA would be asking too much of their instructors if they tried to get them to all ski like world cup mogul skiers in the zipperline. It probably would never happen for the vast majority of instructors. IF the PSIA/CSIA are saying that world class, world cup mogul skiers can't make slower, rounder turns like what the PSIA/CSIA teaches, I really don't know what to think. That sounds like something a confused person would say, or an egomaniac trying to believe he's the best skier, with the best style, when he's not. For now I will assume that they do not think this stuff, I only suggest it at all because I heard a level 3 say this stuff once (no one here), maybe he is the only one who thinks it. Surely the PSIA/CSIA would know better... right?
Applying those same tactics and blend of skills in the level 3 exam wouldn't pass muster.
This is not because the PSIA/CSIA way takes more skill. I really HOPE that it's for the reason I said earlier... that they're going for a simple style in order to not ask too much. If that's not the reason... and you're telling me that if you sent Dale Begg-Smith down the hill, with an Olympic Gold Medal hanging around his neck, skiing his usual awesome way, and the PSIA/CSIA would decide that he's not a good enough skier??? Not as good as the Level 3s??? They would decide that he can't ski less awesome (with slower rounder turns)??? The program would have to be flawed.
Disclaimer: I don't actually know exactly what the PSIA or CSIA says. I am commenting on what it sounds like they might be saying. I use a lot of the word "if" in the above paragraphs. Please keep that in mind.
I want to finish with a note to Josh Matta... Welcome back to the forum Josh. It's unfortunate that we weren't friends in the past and I hope we get along this time. I really hate arguments. Since we have a history of arguing, let's try to not take eachother too seriously this time. Nothing I have written here is a direct response to your post. Let's agree that if we don't agree then it's better to not argue directly with one another and it's better to not say anything about one another (or at the very least anything negative). I am asking for your help in getting along better because I have proven to be really irritable when it comes to your "logic" in the past. I hope things will be different and I hope you'll find some things you agree with (along with the things you don't) here. I apologize if anything here offends you or anyone else. I am not trying to have any kind of argument. I get tired of this forum sometimes with the arguing and I would rather try to enjoy it.
Edited by Ronin - 4/22/13 at 10:30pm