Up front. I am no fan of the 112PC. I think it is a "beginner's ski". The *magic ski* for the guy who never really learned to ski powder. To me it is a quiver ski. Not nearly versital enough to be my only skis. Not to say it is a bad ski. Just not the ski to end my search for the perfect ski. I am glad I had a chance to spend a season on them. But not unhappy when I sold them either.
Like everyone else reading this review likely most of us read the less than stellar review on the RPC Blister posted. (It is linked below) That review and my dislike for the 112PC kept me off the RPC for most of this season. In restrospect that was a BIG mistake on my part.
I am blessed by good fortune to get on a lot of skis. And I am always searching for the next best thing. I have had DPS skis (112/138) and like them for the most part. But I don't like the price generally. Even a pro deal at DPS if you are lucky enough to qualify is more than retail on some damn good skis!
So for me to ski DPS I gotta REALLY like them :)
A good many friends (most professionals) have decided that the 100mm under foot is *the* magic number for an every day skis. I need to keep looking for that 100mm ski. And I have most of the 100mm ski my buddies have suggested. The 112mm/115mm seems to be my magic number. I'm 6"1" and 190#. I am typically a strong skier (physically) and able to ski any terrain given reasonable snow conditions....and with a decent 115mm under foot even what I use to think as "unreasonable" conditions. I've pro patroled in the PNW-Inland NW and heli/BC guided in Canada and Alaska.
I really like skiing on a pair of 177cm-115mm skis, but prefer something longer when lift served..190cm+. And ski some LWT 167/168cm ski going the distance in the BC.
I am using a tech or Dynafit style binding on all my skiis these days. Even the skis reserved just for lift skiing. The RPC is a lift served ski for me. Enough back ground to you should know if my comments will relate to you. I commented on the 112s...and it seems to be the opposite of what DPS designed the RPC for. So I got questioned...and rightfully so. I've not skied the newest Rossi but should. I have skied the BD, La Sportiva, DPS and in 100 and 115 formats. I like the newest LWT skis and the lightest Dynafit style bindings. A long mountaineering back ground has me looking in that direction..instead of back at my old school Rossi and K2 roots. Just picking up a 115mm under foot from either company stops me dead, from going further. The huge tail rocker would if weight didn't. Even though I know some of them will ski very, very well.
Were you on the 190cm RP's?
Interesting that DPS describes the RP to be more capable on hard than the DPC, and more versatile, but you found just the opposite to be true for you.
Here is the video I found most enlightening from DPS. This is what convinced me to give the "112" another try even if it is a 115 version :)
Yes, I was on the 190cm version of the PURE 112RP. And a 192 on the PURE 138 Lotus. (Zero4 and One boots) But one of my all time favorite skis is the Dynafit Hauscaran in a 177cm (TLT boots) as a playful, fun ski in most any conditions and unsurpassed *for me* in tight trees. I like a stiff tail and little or no rocker in the tail on a shorter ski. The rocker up front I don't want flapping around at speed and the ability to carve bullet proof ice with some acuity important as well.
I thought both the 138 and the 112RP too much of a quiver ski instead of a all around ski (duh! that is obvious on the 138 and not nearly the versitility of the 112 everyone else described ).
I bought 196cm Hauscarans and the 192 RPC at the same time. Expecting GREAT things from the longer Hauscaran and not much from the the RPC. It turned out the other way around. And I was making the comparison on two and three hr intervals during a 3 day dump of new powder on a hard ice (west coast standards) base that was rained on before freezing up solid. Add two feet of fluff to that while you are still skiing the ice as the base was interesting for the first day and a half.
Everytime the place got skied out and I thought the conditions just sucked I went back to the RPC and found it was the ski lacking and not the conditions. Harsh reality and eventual glowing accolades for the RPC (much to my surprise!)
In all my internet surfing I found two guys describing the RPC as a *115 Lotus* on another forum...which I found intriging. Marshal Olson and Stephen Drake of DPS were saying the 112RP was a combo of the 138 and the Cassiar 80. (not in my book by any means but I did get the idea what what they intended) All those comments and the newest technology from DPS built into the RPC had me intrigued. My bet is the RPC was the ski DPS was really trying to make when they came out with the 112RP. Blister's review damn near killed this ski for the 1st season I suspect. Not sure the reviewer had a clue either after rereading that one a few times and his later comments. Either he got a totally different ski than I did of the guy had no clue. The non-DPS tune just doesn't jive for me...sorry.
• “The RPC is designed to ski more in the fall line with a shallower turn shape. It’s for the charging, directional skier …who wants to put less emphasis on the RP’s hard snow performance and more on its abilities in crud and soft snow.”
***I found it a better fall line/faster mach 1 type GS turns, ski with no lack of hard snow (or ice) perfirmance. I also found them easy to do slow, super tight turns on steep or even really moderate terrain with ease. Little difference in the 112RP and the RPS here it is only a matter of a little (very little) effort.
• “The RPC gives up some of the 112 RP’s hard snow-carving performance and versatility in exchange for enhanced crud busting and speed through powder.”
*** I didn't find that to be the case at ALL! I think the RPC has soem serious added attributes and literally giving away nothing to the 112RP....other than a more skilled/stronger skier will be happier on the RPC by comparison. Blister's review hints at this btw.
• “The RPC will allow skiers to surf powder in the morning, then charge leftovers all day as they sniff out stashes.”
***this I found spot on.....
"the RPC is absolutely a Wailer 112RP at heart, as it shares some of the same characteristics that helped put the original RP on the map".
***Not IMO....I think the RPC is best described as a "115 Lotus" Forget all that stuff/nonsense about it's connection to the the "beginner's 112 RP". Bad marketing on DPS part IMO.
"I’m not sure I knew what “torsionally rigid” really meant until laying down some blisteringly fast, high-energy carves out the bottom of Alta’s Collin’s face on the RPC. In this respect, DPS’s engineering and construction of the ski is seriously impressive."
I mention Rossi 207s below. I do know what a torsionally rigid ski is. The 138s and the 112RP are good examples. The RPC even more so. You want to ski ice...serious ice... get a torsionally rigid ski. Make it rigid enough and you can ski ice on a soft boot and 115 under foot.
Blisters' review here:
To prep my RPCs I simply ironed in a thick coat of some spring wax on the Hauscarans and the RPS and took them ot the hill without scaping them. No detune on either and I wouldn't call either ski hooky or even anything close to hooky.
I know this will insult the majority of 112RP owners but here goes...easily to describe the 112RP as the ski for the guy that doesn't know how to ski powder.....and you'll never have to learn on the 112RP. It is a super easy ski to ski...any where. But for me it is a "beginners" ski. I come from old school Rossi and K2 SL/GS 207s race skis if that helps. The newest (rockered and 5 point shaped) skis have made me a much, much better skier with less effort involved.
I can rip groomers on this ski with literally no speed limit..none. Even drop into a tuck if I think it required and amazingly still be stable. Big super fast GS turns if I like (and I DO like!) or quick turns straight down the falline at Mach 1. Easy. Pow? If it is of this ski things are easy. Not as easy or as playful as a 177 Hauscaran but almost as easy as the 112RP and just as playful as the RP. Looking for those last tiny powder stashes at your favorite resort? The 4 to 6 turn pockets of the last remaining stash? These will make that patch and if you work at it add an extra turn in there as well. Yes they are a tiny bit more work than the 112RP. And I do mean TINY! But the advantages the rest of the day are immense. Even if it is just getting between stashes at Mach 1 with a huge smile on your face. Slow speed tight trees or just tight turns? Easy enough...so easy enough. I am still amazed at just how versital this ski is. Some of my skis will do most of this. The RPC finally seems like the "full meal deal" :)
This is no 112RPC...it really is a Lotus 115. Big Mountain? All mountain?
"My bet is the RPC was the ski DPS was really trying to design when they came out with the 112RP" The limitations of the 112RP is obvious for the skilled practionier. I've not noted any limitation on the RPC. And I really don't consider myself a very "skilled" practionier. I just get to ski a lot of skis.
FWIW I am skiing the RPC with a Dynafit One boot....and the short Hauscarans with a TLTP. I've already retired the carbon Zero4s. I have found I really don't like/want stiff boots on any of these skis. YMMV