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One Ski for Advanced East Coast Skier -- Steadfast vs. Rossi 88

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At 5'9'', 170 lbs, 50-years-old and fit, I will spend at least 25 days at Sugarloaf next season, in an effort to become expert in a few years.

 

I'll focus on front-side skills at first, but I do love the sides, small jumps and glades, and eventually will attack those skills as well - even climbing to tour at some point. I am a pretty relaxed skier most of the time, interested in fun and safety first, but this year I began to charge some blacks and will want more of that!

 

I've always rented before, as a more casual skier, but I am ready to make the leap. After reading many super-helpful entries on this site, I pose this specific question: For a 75/25 improving advanced East Coast skier, what are the merits/demerits of a Rossi 88 at 173 cm., vs. Nordica Steadfast at 170 cm or 178 cm? Or other skis you favor, for that matter. (for the moment, assume I can't demo - not much left at Sugarloaf.)

 

Thanks much to all you passionate ski folk! FB


Edited by fred b - 4/13/13 at 12:11pm
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Hi fred, welcome. Suggest a search of our Members Gear Reviews forum. Both have been discussed at length, but especially the Steadfast. Real Skiers also is a great site for reliable ski reviews oriented toward non-expert skiers. 

 

I've owned neither, but other comparable models from both companies, have briefly skied the E88. If you're a "pretty relaxed skier" who likes to charge blacks sometimes, I think the E88 is your better bet. It's very popular for a reason; versatile for various speeds and styles, nice in soft snow and bumps, good grip and stabile but not an especially demanding ski. Rossi damp. See a lot of them back here. 

 

Steadfast, from what I've heard, will be somewhat more demanding for a lighter skier. Also depends on what skis you've rented and liked. Steadfast, like all Nordies, has a different feel than Rossis, livelier, lighter. Is stiffer, will have a higher speed limit, not as friendly in bumps although doable. 

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I will admit up front that I have never skied the E88.  Actually the last Rossi ski I liked was the Strato 102 and haven't been a big fan since.  I've been on the Steadfast since early last season after demoing it plus the Blizzard Bushwacker and Line Prophet 90.  I found the Steadfast livelier than either of the others and with better edge grip on hard snow.  I ski off piste as much as I can, mostly glades and bumps.  I have not found them at all difficult in the bumps.  I've skied them in around 20" of powder and they worked, although they were more work than my Icelantic Shamans would have been.  I'm 68, 5'7-8", 150 pounds, ski everything at Red Lodge Mountain and ski the 170s.  This is a ski that likes to be skied pretty centered.  Because of the tip rocker, you don't want to be in the back seat when you're on them.  I have Look demo bindings on them, mounted on center, but have tried them 1cm behind center and they were supremely awful.  I put them back to center and they were once again great.

 

I've read the stuff that says the Steadfast is for experts and find it funny because I don't consider myself an expert, advanced probably, but not an expert.  The E88 has many fans and is no doubt a very good ski.  If you have prior good experiences with Rossis you might well prefer the E88, but if not, I suspect you would like either one.

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I skied the Steadfast 178cm, thought it to be too long for bumps/glades so I got the 170cm which feels too short, find myself sitting a hair back cause I feel like going over the front of the ski. I preferred the length but went shorter for versatility for east coast tight bumps/glades/trail skiing.

 

I'm lighter than you by about 35lbs.

 

I find with Steadfast I cannot jam tips headfirst into a bump, if I do I get rocketed as they don't like to flex evenly from in front of the binding to underfoot to behind the binding.

 

I have the Evo system, might get more benefit from a flat mount, maybe would allow the ski to flex more evenly?

 

Never skiied the Rossi.

 

I think the 178 would be a good length for you, I would have preferred it. Either way I do love the ski for carving, it's like a wide race ski, good grip, but again, at speed would prefer longer length.
 

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I have the Evo system, might get more benefit from a flat mount, maybe would allow the ski to flex more evenly?

 

You have integrated bindings on your Steadfasts?  I thought they were only available flat and according to Nordica's website in the US they are only available flat.  Where did you get them?

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Well if you are interested, I have a 178 Steadfast with Marker Baron bindings ( you talked about touring...)  for sale...

 

http://www.epicski.com/t/119983/fs-nordica-steadfast-178cm-with-marker-baron

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