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Élan amphibo wave flex 14 174 or blackeye ti 181

post #1 of 12
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Hi

I'm looking for a east coast frontside skis, mostly gonna be in Quebec / Vermont.
I'm 190 6" upper intermediate skiers.

I found some good deal on those two skis: 500 ish , and wonder which one would be a betters purchase?
post #2 of 12

By all accounts both of those are great skis. 

Here is a review on the Amphibio.  Can't find one on the Blackeye Ti. (yet) 

post #3 of 12

I ski on the 14's and love them. There is very little they do not do well.

post #4 of 12

Ditto on the 14's.  I didn't take them in the trees or park but have done most everything else on them.

post #5 of 12
I have skied the 14s everywhere on the mountain, bumps, trees groomers. I love that ski.
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I have skied the 14s everywhere on the mountain, bumps, trees groomers. I love that ski.

When I asked a guy at Elan about how the Amphibio technology skied in bumps he said that some people like them better if you switch left and right skis.  Is there anything to that comment? 

post #7 of 12

I really don't think the skis with amphibio should ever be switched. 

IMHO, there is an error in logic in the thinking behind switching amphibio skis in bumps and powder etc. 

Amphibio is not "rocker" in the traditional (LOL) sense. It is not designed to improve flotation. Amphbio effectively provides a shorter ski on the outside of the foot, the "little toe" side. All skiers are naturally weaker on that side of the ski.  While still giving the power and stability of a longer ski on the inside "big toe" side. 

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I really don't think the skis with amphibio should ever be switched. 
IMHO, there is an error in logic in the thinking behind switching amphibio skis in bumps and powder etc. 
Amphibio is not "rocker" in the traditional (LOL) sense. It is not designed to improve flotation. Amphbio effectively provides a shorter ski on the outside of the foot, the "little toe" side. All skiers are naturally weaker on that side of the ski.  While still giving the power and stability of a longer ski on the inside "big toe" side. 
a rep told me switching them is a fun exercise, but that it clearly demonstrates why they are specific to each foot. I'll have to try it next year to describe the feeling.
post #9 of 12
I switched them around going in the bumps several times. I could not tell the difference but that might be a statement about my bump skiing more than it is about the skis
post #10 of 12

I agree. I ski the Elan's and love them. Go anywhere and do anything (within reason). Good construction and durability. Deserves a whole lot more notice in the press than it gets. Top notch ski.

post #11 of 12

I have my eyes peeled for an end of season sale on the Amphibio if any vendors are watching... So far I've seen them for $450ish. I need them cheaper than that to expand the quiver.

post #12 of 12

I have skied (demoed) both the Elan Waveflex 14 and Atomic Blackeye Ti this season. The Blackeye Ti is good but it's not your best choice for a frontside ski. Being an "all mountain" ski, it will work for you on the groomers, but the Waveflex 14 works better. The Elan brings more to the game (in terms of energy and carveability) than the Blackeye. The Amphibio design is a nice touch in that it doesn't have the feeling of a disconnnected tip on the groomed runs that you get with some of the all-mountain rocker skis like the Blackeye and the K2 Rictor.  

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