Originally Posted by BillA
The way I understand it -
In a wedge turn you:
Extend off a flat foot on the outside ski
Your weight shifts your inside hip over the toes of the inside ski causing the ski to go flat
If you don't turn your toes, with the inside ski flat, the outside ski will overpower it and you will go in the direction the outside ski is pointing
When you want to go in the other direction, do the same thing on the other side
You can turn the inside ski by turning your toes in the direction you want the ski to go (femur moves in hip).
The part that is bolded is confusing to me. The way I understand the turn mechanics is to flex the new inside leg causing the new inside ski to flatten. I don't recall ever hearing that there should be an extension off a flat foot on the outside ski. Am I misunderstanding what you wrote?
In the wedge turn video I see a slight release of the new inside ski but no extension off the outside ski.
No you read it correctly. I had two different Examiners make me repeat it over and over, was reinforced by the mountains Race coach's coach and SSD who stated knowing that got him through L2 many moons ago. Maybe it's an East Coast thing but I'll drink the juice. Getting this down has helped my skiing immensely. Pivot Slips are way easier (extend off uphill ski) and the pivot comes from the center of your foot naturally. I couldn't believe how easy and exact it made it. When I just release the downhill ski, it is much more effort to do the pivot slip. When I extend, I feel as I own it. The extension is subtle. Might even look like an inside ski release to someone looking for inside ski release.
When in a wedge, typically your feet are outside your hips if only a little. An A frame. Stand up balanced on both feet and do it static. First use what you want to be your new inside leg as the initiator. Then do it extending off the outside leg. You only have to move until the inside hip is over the inside foot. I feel I'm in a less awkward and stronger position in the latter. Remember, I'm not saying "push" off the outside foot. I'm saying to make sure it is flat and extend using that foot as a base of support. The inside ski will release and go flat effortlessly. Just extend the outside leg and let the inside leg flex and absorb the extension by getting shorter and aligning over the inside foot. Easy peasy lemon squeazy.
In an advanced parallel turn (not carved) you do the same thing but at transition with your skis across the fall line, you extend forward towards the ski tips, off the uphill ski then across. I actually start the move as I come out of the bottom of the turn. An examiner went through this with us at a coaches clinic last season and I've had it reiterated to me by other examiners and again the SSD (who's been working with me a bit lately in prep for L2).
I will concede that if you do it static, you will probably be the only one that knows whether you are extending off the outside foot or flexing the inside leg.
I know I lack the skiing/instructing experience of most folks in this thread, but I would say if you don't see the similarities between a properly done wedge turn and a properly done parallel turn, you might need to practice spend a day or two doing them.